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This + A Million.

Almost no one is ever going to come up against the quality/performance difference between say, Danner/Red Wing and Viberg. Or for that matter Gustin and J.Crew shirts. But the decision making process that goes into which of those you choose to buy and how it correlates to your own self image and the image you choose to cultivate and project is, as LA Guy elaborates on, massive.

It's a fundamental part of why this forum exists at all.

I mostly agree but I got some 7-10 yr old shoes and they aren't from low quality makers, some things just age much differently on the mid to long term. For most pieces who cares but shoes are the worst example to pick.

Possibly a bad example, but it also depends on how many pairs of shoes you own and how much or not they get rotated.

Got one pair of sneakers, one pair of dress shoes and one pair of boots? Yeah, lower quality goods (regardless of price) won't hold up.

There's always a hole to be poked in any bigger generalization, but that doesn't mean it's not largely true.
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Does anyone here know someone who does fashion curation (ugh, lacking of better word) and might interested in working on something?
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late pass but through kind u on rakuten, paypal=bank transfer. they'll email you a link to a paypal invoice.
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Every time I click a Yoox link on this website it was posted by an Amurrican and I get logged out automatically since my account is on Yoox CA. Annoying.
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That TM J Crew shirt, like most of their shirts, looks like shit. Weak, thin, boring, almost see-through fabric, and an ugly collar. The Gustin, however, looks great. Nice substantial beefy looking fabric and much nicer hue of blue with a creamy white, as well a far better shaped collar. Im now thinking about backing it.

Ill add, that I have owned a fair amount of J Crew stuff and it all falls apart. Its overpriced single season wear, ime.
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I really don't get the harping on j.crew quality. I've owned several things in the past - mainly chinos and shirts - and nothing ever fell apart or wore out even with lots of wear. I don't wear any of it anymore but that's due to styling issues, not quality. It's the upscale norm core for the mainstream American dresser. It's not something that would appeal to us here, but everyone else in the segment is imitating them for good reason.
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The questions of quality always creeps up when you know they spend craploads of money on marketing, payroll, rent and everything else that goes with being a large corporate company. How much of that $150 is related to the making and materials of the actual garment?
post #103118 of 109053
For the creative types:

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@Parker
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The questions of quality always creeps up when you know they spend craploads of money on marketing, payroll, rent and everything else that goes with being a large corporate company. How much of that $150 is related to the making and materials of the actual garment?

I don't really get the poo-pooing of marketing here.

My enjoyment of a clothes is deeply tied to how something has been designed, how it relates to a larger conversation of fashion, and how it connects to ideas (heritage, values, image, etc). All that is very intangible and can be built up through marketing.

I mean, I go to bespoke tailors largely for the romance. Not because meeting old men in hotel rooms is romantic (although, it can be), but because of all the ridiculous romantic marketing that has gone into it. Walking into a hotel room and having someone feel you up after you've taken off your clothes can mean very different things depending on how you look at it, and how you look at it is largely affected by marketing.

Marketing can add to our enjoyment of clothes more than some ridiculously incremental improvement in stitching.
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dries-Van-Noten-Cherry-Red-Multi-Yarn-Sweater-/251748056585?pt=US_CSA_MC_Sweaters&hash=item3a9d5a7e09




Can someone fuck with this guy for me please ?

Bought that sweater from me two months ago on G****** , promptly opened an item not received case, got his refund. The lazy fuck even stole my description.
post #103121 of 109053
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I really don't get the harping on j.crew quality. I've owned several things in the past - mainly chinos and shirts - and nothing ever fell apart or wore out even with lots of wear. I don't wear any of it anymore but that's due to styling issues, not quality. It's the upscale norm core for the mainstream American dresser. It's not something that would appeal to us here, but everyone else in the segment is imitating them for good reason.

Could be that I just had bad luck with J Crew, but all my pants and shirts looked like crap after a season of wear and a few washes. Rumply and old looking, not cool and wabi sabi, and the sweaters I had all developed holes and pills and snags. I guess I have a chip on shoulder when it comes to J Crew.
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The questions of quality always creeps up when you know they spend craploads of money on marketing, payroll, rent and everything else that goes with being a large corporate company. How much of that $150 is related to the making and materials of the actual garment?

I have no issue with branding and marketing costs going into item prices. Its part of the way it has to be. Anyone who gets a little warm fuzzy when they buy something from a brand they like, well, the price of that warm fuzzy is part of the MSRP. Thats A-Ok with me.

Should we expect companies to market their stuff so they can sell a lot of it and stay in business, but that should be a public service? C'mon now, these are all business out to make money and provide people with stuff they might like. Anyone who loves fashion, but cant get behind this concept, is missing something, imo. And even at 150, its a lot cheaper than a lot of the stuff we buy here. There is no shortage of $300-$500+ shirts and pants here, and thats not all fabric and labor cost either.
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.Can someone fuck with this guy for me please ?

Bought that sweater from me two months ago on G****** , promptly opened an item not received case, got his refund. The lazy fuck even stole my description.

Someone should buy it, say they didn't receive it, get their refund, and then send it back to sipang.
post #103123 of 109053
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To expand on this, even as late as the early 2000s, J Crew was a place for lame preppy basics.  It was just coming out of an identity as a catalogue brand - my wife remembers lusting after J Crew stuff in high school.  This was the same time that the core Gap brand had really lost it's way, after a period of incredible strength.  As with many things, it had lost its core identity.  I remember going into the store in Pasadena and seeing, alongside carpenter pants (raise hand if you remember that trend), things like leather pants, as well as leather trucker jackets (the second pretty well done, but besides the point), the point being that someone had the bright idea that should move away from the very successfull "khakis" concept and to be a full fledged fashoon brand.  And no one was buying the $500 leather jackets.  I passed on a jacket at $149, I remember.  Banana Republic at that time was still strong, and Old Navy was killing it quarter over quarter, so the company kept up, but the core GAP brand was in shambles.  

After a few years of dismal earnings, Mickey Drexler resigned, and we didn't really hear much from him for a while.  iirc, he was already working a bit with Andy Spade on his boutique marketing firm, which Andy Spade was concentrating on after the Spades sold Kate Spade.  In any case, he was picked up by J Crew, and immediately, they retained Andy Spade, and the rest is modern history.  

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I personally own no J Crew.  I probably have a 2 decade old tee shirt lying around somewhere, but that's it.  My 15 year old son has a bunch fo stuff that he likes.  My personal tastes run to the more escoteric.  But you gotta give props where it's due.  And right now, J Crew owns the game.

I don't own any jcrew either but good to know the history.
post #103124 of 109053
Been browsing SF on iPhone 6 and its great mobile wise but switching over to the desktop version is nice too. On the smaller screen the desktop version was a pure nightmare.

Also, UPS is having some major issues with Apple. I remember apple used fedex and while annoying that they didn't leave apple products at the door, i never had a problem. Fast forward to UPS...
1. They try to attempt iPhone delivery, no one home they leave note.
2. i call to set up pick up form ups facility next day, no problem
3. next day, i get call at 9am can't find package
3.1 call from ups at 2pm can't find package
3.2 call from ups at 4pm can't find package call apple
4. call apple they say sorry issue new phone, waiting extra 2 weeks. My new macbook pro too less time.
5. Again ups tries to attempt delivery, no one home
6. i call to set up pick up form ups facility next day, no problem facility will call you
7. facility never calls, turns out agent never put in request... WTF, why in the world would you lie to me on phone
8. next agent apologizes and i pick up iphone on wednesday finally.

Honestly 2-7 was just unnecessary. On top of it no one made it right to me in the sense of hey we messed up let us fix this, risk package, credit to ups, idk whatever. Apple had nothing to do with the issue so i don't blame them at all. But UPS seriously thats just bad business.
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Meanwhile, kids are dying of hunger and malaria and lack of clean water.
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