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Could spell the end of ToJ
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Originally Posted by APK View Post

It just seems like a really desperate reach on PayPal's part that will have some serious consequences on certain categories (electronics, anyone?), none of which I really dabble in, thankfully. eBay and PayPal have become absurdly buyer-friendly in recent years, but we're hitting comedic levels now with buyers getting half a YEAR to go, "Hey, you know, I don't want this thing after all."

yea 1/2 a year is nutty
post #100563 of 109053
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Originally Posted by skeen7908 View Post

Could spell the end of ToJ

when it becomes 525 days we can start to worry
post #100564 of 109053
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Originally Posted by APK View Post

It just seems like a really desperate reach on PayPal's part that will have some serious consequences on certain categories (electronics, anyone?), none of which I really dabble in, thankfully. eBay and PayPal have become absurdly buyer-friendly in recent years, but we're hitting comedic levels now with buyers getting half a YEAR to go, "Hey, you know, I don't want this thing after all."

It makes sense though. The vast majority of the competition is for buyers, and not sellers.
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don't know if this would work well around people but its funny
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How can you protect yourself as a seller besides taking lots of pictures beforehand to document the item's condition?

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Originally Posted by accordion View Post

How can you protect yourself as a seller besides taking lots of pictures beforehand to document the item's condition?

You can't. As Fok said, they're competing for the buyers, not the sellers. It's the same reason eBay has rolled out similar policies. Starting Nov. 1, eBay is requiring its sellers to accept returns up to 90 days after the sale if the seller wants to maintain their Top Rated Seller status. That's no big deal for occasional sellers, but for the ones who enjoy the 20 percent off discount to their monthly eBay invoice with that status, it's huge. As I said, it's going to affect certain categories more than others. Think of all the ugly sweaters that will be purchased soon and then returned after the holiday season thanks to exploitation of the extended return window imposed on sellers. Think of the electronics that can be bought, used, and then returned months after the fact when a newer, better version is released.

eBay, in particular, has created a really toxic environment where the buyer-seller relationship is concerned. In order to create a better "buying experience," eBay has all but painted its sellers as potential crooks. Next time you buy something, go to send a message. Check out the list of reasons why you're contacting the seller. Choosing, "I haven't received my item," will automatically open a case on the buyer's behalf and freeze the funds, even if the buyer was merely looking to inquire about the item's shipping status.
post #100568 of 109053
Can you order from Amazon and get a paypal refund after 3 months? I mean maybe it's be fun to fuck over this dumbass company.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Can you order from Amazon and get a paypal refund after 3 months? I mean maybe it's be fun to fuck over this dumbass company.

You could try, but the balance of powers lies with Amazon, and you are probably nothing to Paypal. Do the math of power.
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Can you order from Amazon and get a paypal refund after 3 months? I mean maybe it's be fun to fuck over this dumbass company.
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

You could try, but the balance of powers lies with Amazon, and you are probably nothing to Paypal. Do the math of power.

I assume you are talking about Paypal not Amazon. I think our qualms are more on the policy side of things which i doubt a lot of people whom created Paypal had anything to do with.

As technology Paypal is really good. There aren't too many others that transfer fund online as well as they do. But, if you look around there are alternatives such as Square Pay, Popmoney (from citibank), XOOM, many others. But we still use paypal due to the service which is great.

I agree though 180 days is border line insane and it will hurt lots of consumers. Subscription services like online gaming, amazon service, etc will suffer too. Hey i used your service for 6 months, don't like it refund me. There will be a lot of fraudulent claims going on. I predict this will be either gone or amended after some time.
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I had the darndest time when I found out that nahneun was a good ol' boy from Alabama.

u wot m8?
post #100572 of 109053
I think you guys are overblowing this Paypal thing. The current window is 3 months. The addition of another three isn't going to turn normal, non-asshole-y customers into criminals. If someone wanted to screw someone over, they can already do it now with the 3 month window.
post #100573 of 109053
Went shopping in my closet and remembered I had a pair of Alden shell boots I haven't put on in 6+ months. Man these are some sweet boots. Super versatile.
post #100574 of 109053
Guys, don't forget - there are other avenues for sending money. On watch and photo forums there are plenty of sellers who will only take bank transfers or money orders. No PayPal, period. Sure, you eliminate a decent chunk of the people who want to buy your stuff, but you almost guarantee that you will have a fraud and hassle free transaction. PayPal was already buyer friendly, but this 180 days deal is completely insane. I might stop accepting PayPal at this point and switch to bank wires only.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Went shopping in my closet and remembered I had a pair of Alden shell boots I haven't put on in 6+ months. Man these are some sweet boots. Super versatile.

lol8[1].gif
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Originally Posted by Mr. Moo View Post

Guys, don't forget - there are other avenues for sending money. On watch and photo forums there are plenty of sellers who will only take bank transfers or money orders. No PayPal, period. Sure, you eliminate a decent chunk of the people who want to buy your stuff, but you almost guarantee that you will have a fraud and hassle free transaction. PayPal was already buyer friendly, but this 180 days deal is completely insane. I might stop accepting PayPal at this point and switch to bank wires only.

Wires is almost like taking a step backward in the online payment world. In bank i remember those suckers were $25, online about $12.50. Point is paypal is supposed to be the solution for those fees but if they allow all the bs of 180 days to dispute then sellers are screwed.

PSA: Whoever doesn't know once a wire leaves your account the money is gone so be careful when you send cash that way. Make sure the Account numbers, Bank routing numbers/identifiers are correct. Mistakes happen and people have lost money. I believe there may be a way of getting the cash back (wire trace) but its costly and hard. Source = Me, worked in the banking industry for a long time.
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