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How much are you Paying for Fish?

post #1 of 57
7/28/09 at 8:27pm
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I was talking to a friend in ATL and she pays 11.99 for a whole red snapper, while I pay around 3.99 at the local Asian owned ethnic market, for likely much fresher fish. How much is fish around your way? Butter fish = 1.99 per pound Striped Bass= 2.99 per pound Yellow tail snapper = 2.99-3.99 per pound Red Snapper = 4.99 pp(on sale for 3.99 right now) Goat Fish/Parrot fish/whiting all cost 2.99 pp, occasionally 1.99 pp.
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post #2 of 57
7/28/09 at 8:40pm
wtf? thats cheap as balls.

i live in manhattan, the supermarket next to me sells salmon and tuna at around $11 per pound. the food emporium next door sells salmon, tuna and sea scallops at $18+ a pound. it's messed up.

where do i get fresh inexpensive seafood in nyc?
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post #3 of 57
7/28/09 at 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by untilted View Post
wtf? thats cheap as balls.

i live in manhattan, the supermarket next to me sells salmon and tuna at around $11 per pound. the food emporium next door sells salmon, tuna and sea scallops at $18+ a pound. it's messed up.

where do i get fresh inexpensive seafood in nyc?

I live in CT, so I'm not sure. My experience has been Asian owned places have the best prices and highest quality, so maybe Chinatown or out in Queens where the West Indians shop. The Asian markets also seem to have the best Jamaican food ingredients.
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post #4 of 57
7/28/09 at 9:09pm
it can be a little misleading. red snapper, for example, can be two very, very different fish (actually more). on the west coast and in asian markets it usually refers to a type of rockfish, which is a good but not great fish. it's quite likely in atlanta that it would be referring to true snapper, which (off the top of my head) is a porgy and a VERY fine eating fish.
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post #5 of 57
7/28/09 at 9:14pm
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Originally Posted by foodguy View Post
it can be a little misleading. red snapper, for example, can be two very, very different fish (actually more). on the west coast and in asian markets it usually refers to a type of rockfish, which is a good but not great fish. it's quite likely in atlanta that it would be referring to true snapper, which (off the top of my head) is a porgy and a VERY fine eating fish.
Actually i misread what you said. I've never heard of a red snapper being refered to as a porgy, in stores here they are distinctly different fish. Red Snapper generally being preferred by West Indians and porgies by southerners or other Americans.
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post #6 of 57
7/28/09 at 9:33pm
My local fish shop's prices are about 2x those you listed. At the big Asian grocery store that I frequent, probably 1.5x. Both of these prices are still a lot cheaper than Trader Joe's, Whole Foods prices around here.
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post #7 of 57
7/28/09 at 10:46pm
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My local fish shop's prices are about 2x those you listed. At the big Asian grocery store that I frequent, probably 1.5x. Both of these prices are still a lot cheaper than Trader Joe's, Whole Foods prices around here.
Yeah she was at Whole Foods while I was talking to her. I actually used to get my fish from them myself, but was disappointed with their quality even more than their price.
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post #8 of 57
7/28/09 at 10:47pm
It's my understanding that 9 out of 10 times you see Red Snapper on a menu at a sushi restaurant, it's really something else. $3.99 a lb doesn't seem right at all, real Red Snapper is expensive. I assume what you're really buying is generic white fish for that price.
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post #9 of 57
7/28/09 at 11:09pm
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It's my understanding that 9 out of 10 times you see Red Snapper on a menu at a sushi restaurant, it's really something else. $3.99 a lb doesn't seem right at all, real Red Snapper is expensive. I assume what you're really buying is generic white fish for that price.
Sushi grade fish is something entirely different. You're paying for something that's was probably caught the morning of. As fresh as the other fish markets are, you're just not getting that kinda freshness unless you live next to a fishing village.
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post #10 of 57
7/28/09 at 11:20pm
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It's my understanding that 9 out of 10 times you see Red Snapper on a menu at a sushi restaurant, it's really something else. $3.99 a lb doesn't seem right at all, real Red Snapper is expensive. I assume what you're really buying is generic white fish for that price.

Its not that hard to spot red snapper.
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post #11 of 57
7/29/09 at 3:00am
I'm all for buying stuff at an ethnic market, especially Asian, but some of those prices smell fishy, even for a coastal city. Some of the best prices I've seen in Chicago are at http://www.isaacsonandsteinfishcompany.com/ Although I more frequently pay the higher prices at Dirk's or Whole Paycheck because it is closer and I don't own a car.
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post #12 of 57
7/29/09 at 7:16am
15 euros for a kilo of salmon filet, 7.50 euros per kilo for the whole fish.
Usually between 20 and 25 for a kilo of tuna filet.
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post #13 of 57
7/30/09 at 2:57pm
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Its not that hard to spot red snapper.

well, you're a much better spotter than I am then. And I've fished for gulf snapper (Lutjanus campechanus ... and not to get all pedantic, but they and porgies are members of the order perciformes). More to the point, especially on the west coast, most of what is called red snapper is actually rockfish (sebastes). And if you've ever seen Tai snapper (a Japanese fish now fairly common in the round in the US), it looks almost exactly like a true snapper (bump on the head and all), though the flavor is not nearly so distinguished.
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post #14 of 57
7/30/09 at 11:10pm
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well, you're a much better spotter than I am then. And I've fished for gulf snapper (Lutjanus campechanus ... and not to get all pedantic, but they and porgies are members of the order perciformes). More to the point, especially on the west coast, most of what is called red snapper is actually rockfish (sebastes). And if you've ever seen Tai snapper (a Japanese fish now fairly common in the round in the US), it looks almost exactly like a true snapper (bump on the head and all), though the flavor is not nearly so distinguished.

I should have been more clear I meant taste. To be honest I'm sure I've been sold so fake snapper, and enjoyed it, sometimes I curry it and likely wouldn't have noticed the difference. Porgies at least in many Black households in the northeast has such a specific meaning that you couldn't pass one off as a snapper, that kind of threw me off and led to my response. Though I do think stores that caters to largely West Indian clientele usually carries real Red Snapper, growing up eating it make it easy to distinguish the flavor.
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post #15 of 57
7/31/09 at 2:46am
Tokyo fish market. Sashimi grade if you want it and the prices range from about 7 to over 30 a pound.

As for the cheap Chinese places, good fish has certain unavoidable costs and I would be VERY doubious of any fish for 1.99 a pound.

That said buying off the dock or from the side of the road has always been good to me and you can usually get a pretty great deal.
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