Ideal Weight and Form for Expensive Clothing Hobby

Originally Posted by Fuuma

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That meal every three hours thing is for gaylords . . .

. . . and non-**** bodybuilders, but they use too much supplements.

I can see that I am encoutering the usual heavily entrenched and socialized ideas about food here.

Better the medical model than the anorexia/bullemia/Bunny Rogers extremism, I say.

- M

Eating that often makes for boring meals and a very tedious extra schedule. Routinely eating at a desk and such really turns me off (let alone those that store stuff like granola bars in drawers). It just seems incongruous if not gluttonous.

Oh, and here I am.

I just think dining and supping should not be replaced by eating.

I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I don't feel hungry anymore. My weight has been the same forever and so has my clothing sizes.

Originally Posted by mmkn

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. . . and non-**** bodybuilders, but they use too much supplements.

I can see that I am encoutering the usual heavily entrenched and socialized ideas about food here.

Better the medical model than the anorexia/bullemia/Bunny Rogers extremism, I say.

- M

If you have troubles regarding your relationship to food that's fine. To me it IS a social activity.

And just what is a medical model anyway? My memory is full of so called medically proven food models it isn't even funny. One day eggs are good then bad then good and then what? My solution is simple I eat them and will continue to eat them. I don't care about models. What has always worked is eat well balanced meals and stay active. If your losing weight then eat more if gaining cut back a bit.

I eat and drink whatever I want whenever I want, take regular exercise and walk around everywhere instead of taking cars and trams all the time.

I've found this keeps me in pretty ideal form: I've no idea what I weigh but my clothes still fit.

Originally Posted by Crane's

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And just what is a medical model anyway?

The model that takes the 500 pounders and keeps them at their height-weight-proportional size and healthy inside point. No fads, gimmicks, non-natural stuff; just the basic human sciences of protein, carbohydrates, amino acids, vitamins/minerals, and the physiology of digestion. Boorrring, I know.

I am just trying to translate it into practical daily life with regards to my very expensive clothes.

As Fuuma alluded to, the emotional component is high, and can be the subject of an entirely different conversation.

- M

Originally Posted by mmkn

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The model that takes the 500 pounders and keeps them at their height-weight-proportional size and healthy inside point. No fads, gimmicks, non-natural stuff; just the basic human sciences of protein, carbohydrates, amino acids, vitamins/minerals, and the physiology of digestion. Boorrring, I know.

I am just trying to translate it into practical daily life with regards to my very expensive clothes.

As Fuuma alluded to, the emotional component is high, and can be the subject of an entirely different conversation.

- M
But why do you wear nice clothing? Not to fit into it, but to enjoy yourself in it. Eating is such a large part of social enjoyment that it seems like treating it as a science experiment lessens the pleasurable time in your nice clothing by a huge amount.

Originally Posted by iammatt

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But why do you wear nice clothing? Not to fit into it, but to enjoy yourself in it. Eating is such a large part of social enjoyment that it seems like treating it as a science experiment lessens the pleasurable time in your nice clothing by a huge amount.

I dunno, it makes sense. I decided to give up on cheese, wine and grease and eat soy 6 times/day. I'll let you guys know how this works out in my future suicide note.

I actually don't really watch what I eat--pretty much it is whatever I want whenever I want, though I try to keep things within reason. I suppose I eat more vegetables and fruit than I have in the past, but I also eat ice cream almost every day & don't feel guilty if I have junk food.

I also make up for it running 9-9.5 miles every MWF--never thought I could do it, but I worked up to it and in fact enjoy it (especially finishing). I take no supplements. It works out okay--I'm 5'9" 155lbs (at age 37) & am thin enough that going to department stores is an exercise in frustration as hardly any carry smalls in anything or size 30 (let alone 30x32) pants. I could probably show more muscle than I do if I watched what I ate, but then finding clothes to wear would be even more difficult. I'm happy with how I look, and that was my only goal. I was nearing 200lbs as of December 2006.

I try to persuade my wife that she shouldn't rely solely or even primarily on supplements or diet but just get out and exercise (30 minutes of walking a day), but she buys into the lazy weight loss promises.

I eat breakfast, lunch, dinner, and often fruit and/or blue corn chips in between meals. I stay very active, but it's not part of a fitness routine and I don't pay attention to my weight. I'm about the same size I've always been in my adult life, which is fine with me.

i see the reasoning behind the five-meals idea, but, as mmkn and others have noted, it ignores social aspects of eating--not just the fun of going out with folks, but also the social significance of sitting down to a real meal with family, or a partner, once a day.

(come to think of it, i guess i do eat five times a day--or six. i usually have a tiny mid-morning snack like raisins or rice crackers, and i always have tea and a cookie around 2. then often some cheese or nuts and wine after dinner. it's more like three proper meals and two or three not-so-healthy snacks.)

i'm very suspicious of the trend to view food as medicine or fuel. i think that people can improve their health by learning to cook, making a habit of cooking, and sitting down for regular meals with family or friends.

Originally Posted by Manton

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I eat when I am hungry, and don't when I am not. I am not hungry 6 times a day, or even three times a day. There is no way I could force myself to do this.

This is me. I usually eat a very small breakfast, cup of yogurt and some blueberries. Lunch is usually a Clif bar. I normally have a fairly normal sized dinner, but some nights, if I am working late, I even skip that without noticing.. I could not see forcing myself to eat every three hours..

Paging why...paging why...

The human body is pretty adaptable. The advantages of multiple small meals for mitigating insulin swings for individuals with sub-obese BMIs is probably nil. Most of those studies are based on fatties.

There are a lot of good reasons for being active and eating a variety of good food in moderation if you value well being.

In contrast to mmkn, I usually eat one meal a day during most days of the week. This is essentially a form of intermittant fasting.

- B

Originally Posted by iammatt

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Eating is such a large part of social enjoyment that it seems like treating it as a science experiment lessens the pleasurable time in your nice clothing by a huge amount.

I actually eat everything (Big Mac included), but I "trim" the ratio of carbs/protein/fat to what I like, and eat smaller portions.

Literally, it takes me about 5 minutes to eat one of these "meals" at work. I have hourish social dinners with my wife daily; still similar portions, but add wine and dessert.

Example - went out for a casual dinner with mi esposa yesterday - drank mojito and sampled other drinks, had creamy fried calamari, jumbo shrimp, farm raised pork, and caramelized plantain in rum for dessert. Enjoyed it all, but packed a lot to go. Still eating some of the leftovers today. Great conversation, great drive home, etc. . . .

I guess at the heart of my criticism is the influences behind the serving portions in the U.S.

Anyone who tells you you can eat anything anytime and still look "good," run away from them.

- M