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post #7411 of 13492
Torsion,

Sizing-wise, my feet have similar size as yours, maybe a bit bigger. I am UK 7 in almost all brands I tried, eg C&J 348, Merrmin, Carmina Robert Last. I initially ordered size 41.5 in F last based on Mr. Kuti's advice, which some people said is often on the big side. But then, I have a kind friend offered me a 40 (also in F last) and it mostly fit or just slightly too long (but not long enough to have heel slipping). So, I have amended my order to 39.5G , which according to Mr. Kuti has slightly shorter length than 40 but roughly the same width.

Depend on the desire fit of you and how aggressive you are in finding the best fit size for the first purchase, I think 40.5 will be big for you but u can always add an insole. If i were you, i would at least go down to 40 or even 39.5. I will not be surprised if you finally land on 39. Take everything in my post as a grant of salt though. I have limited experience as you can see. Sorry if I have confused you further.

I have no experience in proxy. So, no info.
post #7412 of 13492
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Originally Posted by Torsion View Post

I've been trying to read this thread on there. I'm about ready to get some of these beauties however need opinions on sizing.

I wear in C&J Drummond on the 348 last size 6.5E UK which probably fit me the best out of all the other shoes I have. Typically everything else I own in English brands are 7E UK (Cheaney/Bodiley)
*Also just bought C&J Rosemoor in 358 last 6.5E UK which fits like a glove.

After my findings on the thread I think I "could" be 40.5 in the F, and half size bigger 41 in the U

Can you provide your thoughts (and proxied price) - I'm thinking of getting OE II in F last and old DM in either U/K last

Thanks in advance!


I would say 39.5.  (edited from 39 to 39.5)

 

I am TTS US6D, UK5.5E.  I would wear UK5 on 348 last. 

My first Vass was 39.5 F last, recommended by European retailer.  It turned out to be the biggest shoes I ever bought.   I got 38.5.  Still big, I insert insoles and it became wearable.

My next pair will be 38 on narrow last (width E).   If your instep is high enough, you can wear Vass F with insoles without much compromise on comfort.   F last is quite ample around instep, my laces are fully closed after inserting insoles.  They are very soft so adding insole does not change the feeling much (compared to other brands). 
 

I have a feeling that Vass may send you the shoes for size trial if you are committed to purchase.  (I have not tried it). 

 

Unless, proxy is very knowledgeable about Vass sizing, I do not see much point using it.  I bought from retailer who claimed expertise of sizing for international customers but they proved themselves useless.


Edited by bamboo - 6/18/13 at 8:32am
post #7413 of 13492
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Originally Posted by bamboo View Post


I would say 39.5.  (edited from 39 to 39.5)

I am TTS US6D, UK5.5E.  I would wear UK5 on 348 last. 
My first Vass was 39.5 F last, recommended by European retailer.  It turned out to be the biggest shoes I ever bought.   I got 38.5.  Still big, I insert insoles and it became wearable.
My next pair will be 38 on narrow last (width E).   If your instep is high enough, you can wear Vass F with insoles without much compromise on comfort.   F last is quite ample around instep, my laces are fully closed after inserting insoles.  They are very soft so adding insole does not change the feeling much (compared to other brands). 

 
I have a feeling that Vass may send you the shoes for size trial if you are committed to purchase.  (I have not tried it). 

Unless, proxy is very knowledgeable about Vass sizing, I do not see much point using it.  I bought from retailer who claimed expertise of sizing for international customers but they proved themselves useless.

I wear a UK6 in EG 82 last and C&J 348 last. I have three pairs of Vass and they are all size 40 in the U-last.

For you, I would go size 40.5 in the U-last. Not sure if you should size down half a size for the F-last.
post #7414 of 13492
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Originally Posted by billsayers View Post

I wear a UK6 in EG 82 last and C&J 348 last. I have three pairs of Vass and they are all size 40 in the U-last.

For you, I would go size 40.5 in the U-last. Not sure if you should size down half a size for the F-last.

Curious if any of your U lasted shoes are wingtips? If so, do you have pics of them? Curious to see the creasing because the last Vass pair I had creased close to the end (my guess the size was too big). Thanks.
post #7415 of 13492
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Originally Posted by obama View Post

Torsion,

Sizing-wise, my feet have similar size as yours, maybe a bit bigger. I am UK 7 in almost all brands I tried, eg C&J 348, Merrmin, Carmina Robert Last. I initially ordered size 41.5 in F last based on Mr. Kuti's advice, which some people said is often on the big side. But then, I have a kind friend offered me a 40 (also in F last) and it mostly fit or just slightly too long (but not long enough to have heel slipping). So, I have amended my order to 39.5G , which according to Mr. Kuti has slightly shorter length than 40 but roughly the same width.

Depend on the desire fit of you and how aggressive you are in finding the best fit size for the first purchase, I think 40.5 will be big for you but u can always add an insole. If i were you, i would at least go down to 40 or even 39.5. I will not be surprised if you finally land on 39. Take everything in my post as a grant of salt though. I have limited experience as you can see. Sorry if I have confused you further.

I have no experience in proxy. So, no info.

 

I'm 7UK as well.  40.5 in F last fits me perfectly.  40 was a little too tight.  I tried both in at the store.  Same thing with new Peter last.  

post #7416 of 13492
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Originally Posted by Bonggoy View Post

I'm 7UK as well.  40.5 in F last fits me perfectly.  40 was a little too tight.  I tried both in at the store.  Same thing with new Peter last.  

I 2nd that.. I'm between 7-7.5 uk and I got a 41.5 for Budapest last and F last. Have not received my F last shoes yet but tried them in store and 41.5 was good for me
post #7417 of 13492
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

I dont remember who said that "Alt Wien on 3636" is the best Blucher around......and I certainly see why.

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sstomcat, great looking shoes. Are they shell? I'm definitely new to Vass appreciation, but they are really growing on me. I read a little of Laszlo Vass' book "Handmade Shoes For Men" today, the Alt Wiens seem pretty cool. Are there other tweaks and/or extras which would improve the appearance like decoration on the heels, goyser welt or not, special nail patterns on the soles, and other types of personal touches? Thanks.
post #7418 of 13492
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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

sstomcat, great looking shoes. Are they shell? I'm definitely new to Vass appreciation, but they are really growing on me. I read a little of Laszlo Vass' book "Handmade Shoes For Men" today, the Alt Wiens seem pretty cool. Are there other tweaks and/or extras which would improve the appearance like decoration on the heels, goyser welt or not, special nail patterns on the soles, and other types of personal touches? Thanks.

Yes they are shell. It is a matter of personal preference, and I have both with and w/o goyser and like both. I try to keep it simple and like a simplistic look over all the bell and whistles....
post #7419 of 13492
sstomcat, thanks for the info. As far as personalizing the Vass shoes I'll let my decision be guided by the people at Vass. With Horween shell colors it's all about availability. I wear a US11.5D and a EU45, so fitting shouldn't be a proplem. I like to keep it simple also. What welt works better with a suit and tie, goyser or not, or doesn't it really matter? I ask because I tend to dress more formally with creased slacks and collared shirts.The most important thing for me when buying dress shoes is comfort because I like to walk a lot.
Edited by BeSpiffington - 6/19/13 at 6:05am
post #7420 of 13492
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Originally Posted by BeSpiffington View Post

sstomcat, thanks for the info. As far as personalizing the Vass shoes I'll let my decision be guided by the people at Vass. With Horween shell colors it's all about availability. I wear a US11.5D and a EU45, so fitting shouldn't be a proplem. I like to keep it simple also. What welt works better with a suit and tie, goyser or not, or doesn't it really matter? I ask because I tend to dress more formally with creased slacks and collared shirts.The most important thing for me when buying dress shoes is comfort because I like to walk a lot.

Glad to be of help. You have hit the nail on the head. No matter how good a shoe looks fit is very important.
As for dress, I would not go with goyser which I feel is more suited for a semi formal type of shoe like the Budapester last. Also, my definition of a formal shoe with a suit is an oxford. At Vass there is no dearth of choices but choose wisely, the same shoe in different lasts fit differently.
Edited by sstomcat - 6/19/13 at 7:30am
post #7421 of 13492
Very nice and suptle leather







post #7422 of 13492
Has anyone with dub monks seem one of their straps come off? Ripped mine yesterday after 1.5 years or so...
post #7423 of 13492
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Originally Posted by TheTukker View Post

Has anyone with dub monks seem one of their straps come off? Ripped mine yesterday after 1.5 years or so...

The shoe is trying to send you a message........
post #7424 of 13492

With permission from our Swiss client - a pair of MTO Wholecut

 

1) Size Eu44

2) Antique Cognac calf

3) U last

4) Double sole - tapered to single at waist.

5) Hand welted & steel toe inserts.

 

 

 

 

post #7425 of 13492
Those are absolutely gorgeous - WANT!
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