The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

[Verniza]

Hello my fellow friends.

With regards to sizing for the F Last, how does it compare to say the G&G DG70?

I'm a UK8.5 on DG70 and a tight UK8 on AS lasts. Would hugely appreciate your kind assistance.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

Your G&G DG70 - is it a Derby? Oxford? or Loafer? Do you know the difference?

Safest bet is 42.5

 

[Ilovelobbs]

Seeing as we've been having a lot of activity lately around these parts, can anyone comment on sizing between the F and P2 lasts? Half a size down? or same size?

Keep to same size - otherwise you run a higher risk of returning them if you deviate by half size.

 

[bamboo]

Hello my fellow friends.

With regards to sizing for the F Last, how does it compare to say the G&G DG70?

I'm a UK8.5 on DG70 and a tight UK8 on AS lasts. Would hugely appreciate your kind assistance.

I myself am struggling with sizing. Communication with Mr. Kuti makes me think that their F last size is true-to-size to Brannock device in EUR measurement. Is this a generally accepted view here?

I think it is better to avoid using UK sizing to order Vass shoes.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

Have you any experience with Carmina? I think from an aesthetic viewpoint they are better than C&J bench grade and on par with Handgrade.

I would be a bigger fan of JL if I could find a last that suited my feet best. 8000 is the best, 8695 voluminous.

From a build perspective, the first thing I notice when I pick up a shoe is how well the heel is constructed. I once had a pair of JL bespoke and the space between the heel ad outsole was so airtight and immaculate. The aesthetic of the shoe left much to be desired but the heel was a work of art

Yes to Carmina, Magniani and Yanko.

Tried a pair of Carmina at The Armoury/HK.
Similar in price and finishing to C&J's - but overall impression is positive.
I know the Japanese are big fans due to some of the toe shape being extremely
eye catching to the Japanese market....


When I talk of Lobbs - I mean John Lobb Paris (mainly RTW and MTO)
NOT John Lobb London - they only do Bespoke from £3k upwards....
I'll need to compromise on a lot of shoes for 1 pair of JL London.
My feet are fine with no abnormality (touch wood) so no need to go down the
bespoke route. IMO inefficient allocation of resources unless you need to on
medical reason or you have lots of Wonga to launder.

I am a big fan of John Lobb Paris leather - espescially the marble effect musuem
calf. There only 1 tannery in Italy that supply this delicate leather to Hermes (thus JL)
It's bloody high maintenaince and high quality (but not as durable as Vass French Calf and SC
Calf) The tannery pretty stubborn and won't entertain any business with the likes of SC/Vass.

 

[Verniza]



Your G&G DG70 - is it a Derby? Oxford? or Loafer? Do you know the difference?

Safest bet is 42.5


 

It's the Rothschild to be specific.

I find myself wearing UK8.5 due to a wide toe box which makes UK8 shoes tight upfront at the toe width while having more than enough room with the length.

I myself am struggling with sizing.  Communication with Mr. Kuti makes me think that their F last size is true-to-size to Brannock device in EUR measurement.  Is this a generally accepted view here?

I think it is better to avoid using UK sizing to order Vass shoes. 

Well most of one's shoes experience around here belongs to the Englishmen. It's a fate we cannot escape.

 

[Fiddler]

Hello my fellow friends.

With regards to sizing for the F Last, how does it compare to say the G&G DG70?

I'm a UK8.5 on DG70 and a tight UK8 on AS lasts. Would hugely appreciate your kind assistance.

I wear 8.5 E in G&G and am a perfect 42 on the F Last.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

I wear 8.5 E in G&G and am a perfect 42 on the F Last.

Can you check it's printed 42 and not 42- on the sole. As 42- would mean 42.5

If it's indeed 42, we're giving our fellow SF member a slight headache, but it adds to the
sampling data.

 

[gyasih]



Depends on the gap of the V during initiation stage - was it over 1cm and now it's touching or even overlapping
after several months of breaking into them. Just means you're breaking into them very well..

But there have been misunderstanding in the past with Vass sizing, because they use the hyphen symbol ( - )
to indicate half sizes. 

44.5 = 44-
44 = 44
43.5 = 43- 
43 = 43
42.5 = 42-
42 = 42

Some try on a 43-  thinking they are trying on a size 43, where in fact it's a size 43.5

They are a 44.

No, the V was a little less than .5" I think that it may be just a result of breaking in and I am over concerned. They aren't touching.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

They are a 44.

No, the V was a little less than .5" I think that it may be just a result of breaking in and I am over concerned. They aren't touching.

Nothing to be concerned about - if it was touching or overlapping before breaking into them, then
be worried. This is more to do with fitting around your in-step. You can buy special padding
to fit below the lace hole.

Most of my fully broken into shoes (This rule only applies to Oxford Lace-up) has a healthy V-gap of around 1.5cm (.5")
on the top lace hole.

 

[terrorsquad]

I am a big fan of John Lobb Paris leather - espescially the marble effect musuem
calf. There only 1 tannery in Italy that supply this delicate leather to Hermes (thus JL)
It's bloody high maintenaince and high quality (but not as durable as Vass French Calf and SC
Calf) The tannery pretty stubborn and won't entertain any business with the likes of SC/Vass.

This will change soon

 

[sstomcat]



I myself am struggling with sizing.  Communication with Mr. Kuti makes me think that their F last size is true-to-size to Brannock device in EUR measurement.  Is this a generally accepted view here?

I think it is better to avoid using UK sizing to order Vass shoes. 

best bet is to take your measurements(tons of info available online) and send it over and let them figure it out.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

This will change soon

This is interesting - keep us updated....Is this for Vass for S Crispin?
At end of the day, if there money to be made why not sell to others.

Lobb museum calf distinctly unique I have never seen any shoe makers
getting hold of this leather. Mr Carr from SC a straight talking gent and
tried to appraoch these guys before, but got put off with their Italian
Mafioso... attitude.

 

[terrorsquad]

This is interesting - keep us updated....Is this for Vass for S Crispin?
At end of the day, if there money to be made why not sell to others.

Lobb museum calf distinctly unique I have never seen any shoe makers
getting hold of this leather. Mr Carr from SC a straight talking gent and
tried to appraoch these guys before, but got put off with their Italian
Mafioso... attitude.

It is for Vass. Well, Meermin just got hold of them from Ilcea (the tannery that produces museum calf for John Lobb); I organized a group MTO for their Linea Maestro line in museum calf. You can check the Meermin thread out, I posted pictures of the leather that just arrived with Meermin a few pages back.

 

[Ilovelobbs]

It is for Vass. Well, Meermin just got hold of them from Ilcea (the tannery that produces museum calf for John Lobb); I organized a group MTO for their Linea Maestro line in museum calf. You can check the Meermin thread out, I posted pictures of the leather that just arrived with Meermin a few pages back.

Be great if you can post them on here...

Is Meermin a high volume producer?