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post #10051 of 13469
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Online orders?  I didn't think the Vass store in Budapest would do orders via email (for shipment to the US that is). Does anyone know otherwise??

 

 

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Originally Posted by OzzyJones View Post

Its a couple of emails, a wait and a wire transfer. Easy!

 

 

Very very easy.  Figuring out your size is the most difficult part of the process.  

post #10052 of 13469
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

Vass has been trying to do too many things to please the crowd of late.They should learn/start to say No.

This. Happy customers, selling products people want to buy, is no way to run a business.
post #10053 of 13469
well, shoe sizing is difficult for any last that doesn't allow you to try personally, takes an educated guess, and consulting the maker and other members.

I personally believe that their partnership with Ugolini is one of their best moves, I wouldn't have bought a single pair of Vass if wasn't for the U last, and may be the F last. Same for other members, Vass did a good job of keeping itself traditional, and slowly embracing the internet social media.

With their current capacity, I don't think they can go down the E store route like Meermin and Carmina, It keeps them niche and I enjoy the personalised way of communication with Rezso.
post #10054 of 13469
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Originally Posted by pwhinson View Post
 

 

Online orders?  I didn't think the Vass store in Budapest would do orders via email (for shipment to the US that is). Does anyone know otherwise??

 



Well I'm pretty sure guys like RogerP orders a pair via email every other week! But really they ship all over the world daily. Just email them and they will send you a reply with the order instruction/process.

I was told it's cheaper for me to order via email as they will remove the VAT.

 

Really? This was the reply I received when I emailed them directly:

 

Hello-

First of all we would like to thank you for your interesting about Vass
Shoes!
We are really sorry, but we don't deliver directly shoes to the USA. We do
have 2 official retailer there:

www.epauletnewyork.com
www.nomanwalksalone.com 

Please try to reach Mike and his team in New York or in LA, or try their
online shop.
If I can help, please contact me!

Kind regards,

Rezső Kuti
Sales Manager
assistant to Mr. Vass
www.vass-shoes.com
info@vass-cipo.hu
 

OK, so I've bought a pair from nomanwalksalone and love them.  I'd like to know what the shop in Budapest has in my size - obviously there should be a very good selection (I wear a 43 in the

F last and a 42.5 in some of the other roomier lasts -- a very common size, about a 10D US). So options should be plentiful and of course I can access their online catalog easily enough.  Neither epaulet nor nomanwalksalone has really much of anything immediately available although they - as well as Notch - are willing to do an MTO a very reasonable price.  However I think the ideal thing for me would be to see what the Budapest shop has on hand perhaps by model number and then consult that catalog (in the same way I can see the few items that are available from the two US vendors).  THEN I could decide whether I need to do an MTO. I just don't get the impression that the US outlets are interested in providing information regarding what might be immediately available without entering an MTO with an 8 week or more wait.

post #10055 of 13469
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That is curious...

I wonder if that is a recent change in their mail order policy? Last i made inquires was in January of this year, so it must have been a recent change.

I also notice AscotShoes removed from the official retailer list (which is listed on old correspondences with VASS)
post #10056 of 13469
^^ If that's so, I will be sad.
post #10057 of 13469
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^^ If that's so, I will be sad.

I foresee Notch being a busy man... nod[1].gif
post #10058 of 13469
They have an agent in the US since last year, and I guess that he isn't too happy with Vass selling directly to "his" market, hence the changed policy for direct US-orders, I guess.

This is a problem for Vass, that they haven't sold their shoes at a retailer price tag when bought directly from them. That is partly why the price is so good, and if they now whould change their direct prices to level with the price retailers have to put out, they would loose a lot of their customers. At the same time, to sell wider, wholesalers and retailers are a good thing. It's the same thing with for example Meermin or Markowski/Septieme Largeur, their competitive pricing is due to the fact that they use direct sales pricing, and sell all their shoes themselves. The con of that is that they can never sell through other retailers, since they would have to have a higher price tag.

The other business version is the most common one, for example G&G, Carmina, John Lobb etc are using the same price as the retailers sell for also from their own webshops/stores. They get a bit higher margins on those.

This is a hard nut to crack for Vass, how to manage to both keep the direct pricing and sell through retailers.
Edited by j ingevaldsson - 3/6/14 at 12:23am
post #10059 of 13469

Assume they have stopped selling direct to clients in the US because of the fact they have actual retailers in the US now. There was a similar situation with Alfred Sargent a few months back, with companies not being able to sell certain models due to licensing rights in certain places. Affected on of the forum affiliates a fair bit, too.

 

I wonder if they will allow old clients to keep ordering direct, or will direct all business from a certain date onwards to their US retailers?

post #10060 of 13469
j ingevaldsson, great point, but I think you mean retailers, when you write wholesalers?
post #10061 of 13469
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Originally Posted by joiji View Post

Assume they have stopped selling direct to clients in the US because of the fact they have actual retailers in the US now. There was a similar situation with Alfred Sargent a few months back, with companies not being able to sell certain models due to licensing rights in certain places. Affected on of the forum affiliates a fair bit, too.

I wonder if they will allow old clients to keep ordering direct, or will direct all business from a certain date onwards to their US retailers?

Well, Vass need to determine if they sell more through retail direct sales, or online orders to USA customers, or restrict any models that is available through their retailers in US, and free up the rest.
post #10062 of 13469
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Originally Posted by j ingevaldsson View Post

They have an agent in the US since last year, and I guess that he isn't too happy with Vass selling directly to "his" market, hence the changed policy for direct US-orders, I guess.

This is a problem for Vass, that they haven't sold their shoes at a wholesale price tag when bought directly from them. That is partly why the price is so good, and if they now whould change their direct prices to level with the price wholesalers have to put out, they would loose a lot of their customers. At the same time, to sell wider, wholesalers are a good thing. It's the same thing with for example Meermin or Markowski/Septieme Largeur, their competitive pricing is due to the fact that they use direct sales pricing, and sell all their shoes themselves. The con of that is that they can never sell through other wholesalers, since they would have to have a higher price tag.

The other business version is the most common one, for example G&G, Carmina, John Lobb etc are using the same price as the wholesalers sell for also from their own webshops/stores. They get a bit higher margins on those.

This is a hard nut to crack for Vass, how to manage to both keep the direct pricing and sell through wholesalers.

 

Easily solved.  Production is limited and in good demand due to their local pricing, so screw the price gouging wholesalers.

 

If anything, they should learn a thing or two from all the come-and-go wholesale relationships between, say, G&G and Barneys/Leather Soul/etc, or Alfred Sargent and Wingtip.  And wholesalers gone belly up more frequently than manufacturers.

 

Besides, Epaulet/NMWA/whoever else sells in North America arent the first Vass carrying store.

post #10063 of 13469

that wil suck, because epaulet and NMWA charge about 2-300 more than if you buy direct.

 

 

might not buy as much vass now.

post #10064 of 13469
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post
 

that wil suck, because epaulet and NMWA charge about 2-300 more than if you buy direct.

 

 

might not buy as much vass now.

 

Around 200 more even when they are on sale.

post #10065 of 13469

pretty much, and thats not an MTO, if you want a style you actually want, they'll charge even more.

 

this is actually terrible news.

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