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post #10036 of 12728
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Originally Posted by velomane View Post

Speaking of chukkas, does anyone here have any that are made by Vass? I'd love to see some pics.

Not mine:

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post #10037 of 12728
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Online orders?  I didn't think the Vass store in Budapest would do orders via email (for shipment to the US that is). Does anyone know otherwise??

 





Well I'm pretty sure guys like RogerP orders a pair via email every other week! But really they ship all over the world daily. Just email them and they will send you a reply with the order instruction/process.



I was told it's cheaper for me to order via email as they will remove the VAT.

 



LOL - I only wish! And I am in Canada, so that wouldn't really answer the US question. But more to the point, I have gone exclusively through Vass resellers to this point, so I have no experience with ordering direct.
post #10038 of 12728
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Originally Posted by mebiuspower View Post

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Originally Posted by pwhinson View Post

 

Online orders?  I didn't think the Vass store in Budapest would do orders via email (for shipment to the US that is). Does anyone know otherwise??

 







Well I'm pretty sure guys like RogerP orders a pair via email every other week! But really they ship all over the world daily. Just email them and they will send you a reply with the order instruction/process.





I was told it's cheaper for me to order via email as they will remove the VAT.

 





LOL - I only wish! And I am in Canada, so that wouldn't really answer the US question. But more to the point, I have gone exclusively through Vass resellers to this point, so I have no experience with ordering direct.

 



Ok fine maybe every other 4 weeks and alternate between that an ordering from Leatherfoot... they know you by first name when I was there last time! ;-)
post #10039 of 12728
I really don't get it from a business point of view.

Finally, we are seeing an expansion of retailer network Yet Vass is also selling MTO direct at pretty much the same price as RTW at local resellers.

The resellers probably are not happy about that. Having the burden to keep a certain inventory, and also have to compete with factory direct.

I hope Vass would seriously plan out their strategy and not fall victim to its own recent exploding success.
post #10040 of 12728
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post

I really don't get it from a business point of view.

Finally, we are seeing an expansion of retailer network Yet Vass is also selling MTO direct at pretty much the same price as RTW at local resellers.

The resellers probably are not happy about that. Having the burden to keep a certain inventory, and also have to compete with factory direct.

I hope Vass would seriously plan out their strategy and not fall victim to its own recent exploding success.

Their supplier network is still very limited. Just because a couple of stores in the US has decided to stock a few models doesn't mean they can or should stop selling directly, that would a very bad business decision! The retailers will always benefit from customers being able to see and try on models as well as getting the shoes on the day and not having to order over email etc. 

post #10041 of 12728
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Originally Posted by mtc2000 View Post

I really don't get it from a business point of view.

Finally, we are seeing an expansion of retailer network Yet Vass is also selling MTO direct at pretty much the same price as RTW at local resellers.

The resellers probably are not happy about that. Having the burden to keep a certain inventory, and also have to compete with factory direct.

I hope Vass would seriously plan out their strategy and not fall victim to its own recent exploding success.

It's not as simple as going on their site and ordering; you have to use email which can be slow as depending how busy they are emails can go unanswered for days. You can also only pay by wire transfer. A lot of people don't like this. As an aside, if I wanted MTO I'd actually be cheaper to buy from SF proxy Notch than go direct to Vass. That's for UK purchases tho
post #10042 of 12728
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Really don't understand why you have such a problem with Vass trying new things, it's not like they have abandoned what made them as a company, they still sell all their original models. Not meaning to start a argument, just curious. 
Exactly. I didn't say for them to replace their existing products. Expanding their offerings can bring in more buyers.
post #10043 of 12728
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Originally Posted by dlind View Post

Their supplier network is still very limited. Just because a couple of stores in the US has decided to stock a few models doesn't mean they can or should stop selling directly, that would a very bad business decision! The retailers will always benefit from customers being able to see and try on models as well as getting the shoes on the day and not having to order over email etc. 

If one of the US retailers has your size and a style you like, there's nothing that compares to having a pair of Vass on your feet in two or three days!

They also provide another route for order through an intermediary. As RogerP proves, that is a route people like to take. I imagine choosing which intermediary comes down to how the pricing and terms work for you and who you like to work with.

I think choices are good.

Scotchgrain Budapest oxfords (you see, I learn) on the R last:

post #10044 of 12728
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Originally Posted by dlind View Post

Really don't understand why you have such a problem with Vass trying new things, it's not like they have abandoned what made them as a company, they still sell all their original models. Not meaning to start a argument, just curious. 

This will be my last post regarding this, really, of course I don't have a problem, I think most people here apparently doesn't have to much sense of humor and take half jokes and sarcastic comments too seriously, this is not important, this is an internet forum is all.

That being said, and in all seriousness, I think countries, high end companies and their products need to have an identity, things that set them apart from the rest (for good or bad). Vass is an Eastern Europe company that make shoes in the Astro Hungarian tradition, and most of the suggestions I see are trying to get the company to imitate (copy) English shoes and there are plenty of English, French, Italian shoes so I don't think it's wise to do that even if it's financially "good for business". In my opinion it's bad for business and hurt the brand. And now a bunch of guys will start saying that expanding to the F and U last was the best thing ever, and it was, both for image and business, genius, but somehow Vass was able to keep those lasts, particularly the F close enough to the Hungarian flavor (I'm not an expert by any means, it's just my opinion) and at the same time being modern and elegant.

To me, the argument of "it doesn't matter what they do, you can still order the other stuff" is very weak, then make them make sneakers, imitate the MH71 last, jodhpur boots, copy the "patina" of other shoes, Ilcea leathers, hatch grain etc etc. looking like any other English shoe will hurt the brand in my opinion. Imagine Audio Research making home theater packages to compete with Denon, lamborghini making sedans to look like Mercedes, Serotta or Independent Fabrication making aluminum bikes, Wolfgang Muthspiel playing like Pat Metheny to sell records etc etc. Look at the disgrace that are Elton John and Rod Stewart for example, that distinctive English flavor of their 60's and 70's is gone and for the last 30 years they keep producing all this poppish crap, good for business. but what the heck, nothing matters, you can still buy the original stuff if you want.

It's not a matter of being old/young, modern or old school, I'm sure again many will disagree, but that is how I think and I find difficult to believe that no one understand value in identity and being different.

Cheers
post #10045 of 12728
I can respect that rikod. For me, I will admit that it's less about the Hungarian aesthetic, and more about the construction and value. I will admit that I might be trying to substitute VASS into an aesthetic that I have already adopted as my style.

While I don't wish for any brand with humble roots to lose its identity and individuality. I do appreciate that they give a little bit, and humor us with their more modern options.
post #10046 of 12728
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Scotchgrain Budapest oxfords (you see, I learn) on the R last:

lol, looking good man...

do you take the same size in R as F? For me the R last seems half size too big and I ended up returning them.
The socks looks jazzy and quite thick.
post #10047 of 12728
rikod - I must have missed where anyone suggested they make sneakers.

Wait - that was a joke, right? :-)

I don't see a loss of identity for Vass. But I guess I might if I thought (or wished) their identity to be "We make great big clunky sh!t-kicking Budapesters and nothing else dammit!"

(Yes, that was a joke).
post #10048 of 12728
Vass has been trying to do too many things to please the crowd of late.They should learn/start to say No.
post #10049 of 12728
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Originally Posted by sstomcat View Post

lol, looking good man...

do you take the same size in R as F? For me the R last seems half size too big and I ended up returning them.
The socks looks jazzy and quite thick.

Lol indeed... fistbump.gif

The R and F last shoes I have are both 45s, standard width. There's definitely more volume in the R last for me. They also seem a touch shorter than F. This is a combination that's fine for me, since I'd call the F last 45 fit for me snug, and it's an elongated style.

You may be able to see that these oxfords lace up to not quite closed, whereas the F pair that I have shows more of a V gap.

Socks, jazzy, yes, and a fairly thick cotton knit. Good for these oxfords.
post #10050 of 12728

@rikod Thanks for a very well written post, I agree on a lot of things but at the same time i'm in the same boat as JubeiSpiege, I choose was more for the superb quality and construction. 

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