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Duly noted! Thanks.
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they are surely from a different era. much better balanced than the "newbie"...
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they are surely from a different era. much better balanced than the "newbie"...

well i guess you aint no oxford fan, but nothing wrong in this design or the balance of them!
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well i guess you aint no oxford fan, but nothing wrong in this design or the balance of them!

mate, when i talk about balance. i never talk about the style/model.

it's all about the heel and sole(thickness and ratio). the new VASH heels and this bloody HAF thing reminds me of AE and a copy of any english maker - me too comes to my mind. i cannot appreciate this development in regards of aesthetics and pedigree.
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Which Saphir color wax would you use on Antique Cognac and Dark Cognac respectively?

Dark brown
post #846 of 20242
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mate, when i talk about balance. i never talk about the style/model.

it's all about the heel and sole(thickness and ratio). the new VASH heels and this bloody HAF thing reminds me of AE and a copy of any english maker - me too comes to my mind. i cannot appreciate this development in regards of aesthetics and pedigree.

there is nothing wrong in the heel sole thinkness balance neither when i walk nor in the pictures, perhaps it is the less refined way that vass finishes the sole that gives it that impression in some of the pictures, if the waist and sole was cut that bit closer to the upper then you would not notice it or taking the pictures at a different angle.

fyi i wear vass perhaps 55 - 60% of the time, all other times it is my G&G bespoke (which have a veried hight difference) and i have never suffered with any issues that you might associate with the heels heeing too high or too low or off balance to use your terms.

as for the oldies and the newbies heel and sole is the same, only difference is the worn and unworn lah!
post #847 of 20242
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as for the oldies and the newbies heel and sole is the same, only difference is the worn and unworn lah!
Yeah, I was wondering...thought sure I was missing something...I thought they looked about the same as well.
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when the sole exaggerates from the upper, especially around the heel in this case, it's not noticeable while wearing.

there's a huge difference from the old to the newer ones. pity.

it just looks like AE everybody is bitching about. no more or less.

as you said. they should cut it closer...
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when the sole exaggerates from the upper, especially around the heel in this case, it's not noticeable while wearing.

there's a huge difference from the old to the newer ones. pity.

it just looks like AE everybody is bitching about. no more or less.

as you said. they should cut it closer...

after 4+ years of buying and wearing i have not noticed any difference - if anything they have got better
post #850 of 20242
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when the sole exaggerates from the upper, especially around the heel in this case, it's not noticeable while wearing. as you said. they should cut it closer...
Pardon me if I misunderstand, but I must tell you that as a shoemaker I'd rather see the heel seat be a little proud of the upper than not. Every aspect of a shoe has a function and a purpose if the shoe is well made. Even otherwise aesthetic considerations. If the heel is trimmed too close to the upper it leaves the shoe vulnerable to scuffing. If the shoe has a solid, leather heel stiffener...as any well made shoe will...the back and sides of the shoe will be hard and unyielding. Sharp objects or abrasive surfaces can do more damage here than to the front or top of the shoe. Stepping off a curb, getting into vehicles, carelessly crossing or banging the feet around under the table or against each other in a nightclub...just a few of the situations where the back and sides of the shoe can be damaged. The heel and the heel seat, if made with deliberation, act as a "bumper" of sorts, protecting the upper. A close trim is desired, yes. But too close is, in some ways, worse than not close enough. In my opinion.
post #851 of 20242
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we're talking the same thing. well made shoes. i'm fine.

thank you for the explanation. certainly, you're more authorized.
post #852 of 20242
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after 4+ years of buying and wearing i have not noticed any difference - if anything they have got better

you talk about wearing them. not me
post #853 of 20242
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when the sole exaggerates from the upper, especially around the heel in this case, it's not noticeable while wearing.

there's a huge difference from the old to the newer ones. pity.

it just looks like AE everybody is bitching about. no more or less.

as you said. they should cut it closer...

do you have any pictures, i might not be getting 100% you meaning - sorry!
post #854 of 20242
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do you have any pictures, i might not be getting 100% you meaning - sorry!

your very own. DW explained it very well, i can't do it better.

you know, i really like VASH, but fortunately i have the whole palette in front of me... ...and a fantastic source through "operation paprika".

cheers
post #855 of 20242
Too much banter between Fritz and Luk-cha, use MSN chat for @#$K sakes!

More P0RN please!
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