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post #2791 of 20276
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Originally Posted by ziggyosk View Post

Ok guys I need help. I've read ever page of this thread and came to one conclusion....I need some Vass!
Im going to Budapest next month so im definitely going to visit the store. What can I expect? Ive heard they dont have a big selection, and my feet are an 11UK so they probably wont have lots of stuff in my size to choose from.
Question 1: How much do the shoes in the F and U lasts cost?
Question 2: Will the be able to measure my foot and order the model I like in my size?
Question 3: does this cost extra?
I really hope they can fit me becauseI after coveting everyone's shoes in this thread for the last few months I NEED to get my hands on a pair or 2! icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

Vass starts at 100,000 Forints-- don't know what the premium on the Italian lasts would be, if any.

They have lots of models in the shop-- you should be able to get a notion of what last and size suit your fancy even if they don't have the model and color you'd want to walk out with.

MTO as such doesn't really cost more, although you do have shipping to deal with, and maybe some other minor annoyances.
post #2792 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post


From the heel to the ball of the foot, they are basically the same on my foot. For me, the only difference is in the shape of the toe, where the Budapester has a bit more wiggle room. Like the Budapester, the 3636 is also quite short in the toe-- its only real flaw in certain applications. That might be what's making it look too wide to you.
3636 does well not only in the Norweger (and the American-style loafer), but makes decent Oxfords, albeit not as graceful or English as the F. The Peter last Oxfords on the Vass-Cipo site give an idea of the look.

Thanks for the information! I have a pair of boots on the Budapest last in 43.5 (same as F and P2), but it's a touch short in the toe box of my left foot (which is longer than my right). It's barely doable in 43.5 after some stretching with very thin socks. Next time I'll go with the Budapest last in a size 44 (which I also wear with the U last). Would you agree that a size 44 is the way to go on the 3636 for me? As long as the 3636 isn't any wider than the Budapest last I imagine I should be ok.

Thanks and Merry Christmas!
post #2793 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

Vass starts at 100,000 Forints-- don't know what the premium on the Italian lasts would be, if any.
They have lots of models in the shop-- you should be able to get a notion of what last and size suit your fancy even if they don't have the model and color you'd want to walk out with.
MTO as such doesn't really cost more, although you do have shipping to deal with, and maybe some other minor annoyances.

Agreed. I'd chat with the folks at the shop and see what sizes make sense for you based on what they have available for you to try on. You can then make future orders through them or through Kolecho on the forum on one his Vass mass orders. Good luck!
post #2794 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

Thanks for the information! I have a pair of boots on the Budapest last in 43.5 (same as F and P2), but it's a touch short in the toe box of my left foot (which is longer than my right). It's barely doable in 43.5 after some stretching with very thin socks. Next time I'll go with the Budapest last in a size 44 (which I also wear with the U last). Would you agree that a size 44 is the way to go on the 3636 for me? As long as the 3636 isn't any wider than the Budapest last I imagine I should be ok.
Thanks and Merry Christmas!

Uneven feet make it very hard for fit on short stocky last,
me have same problem and find elongated last (F) the best.
3636 and budapest last is short and stocky and it hard to fit for uneven foot.
3636 fit like budapest last,
try 44 but it might be loose on right foot so be careful.
Edited by Son Of Saphir - 12/26/11 at 12:10am
post #2795 of 20276
I thought it was time for me to contribute picture wise in this part of the forum as well, having been a lurker for quite some time

U vs K last

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post #2796 of 20276
The shoe with the medallion is U-last, correct?
post #2797 of 20276
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Originally Posted by LS7 View Post

The shoe with the medallion is U-last, correct?

Yup!
post #2798 of 20276
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Originally Posted by claes500 View Post

Yup!

So from your comparison photos my conclusion would be that the K is a slightly shorter last, a tad narrower in the toe box and a little wider in the ball of the foot. Would you say this is a fair assessment?
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post #2800 of 20276
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Originally Posted by LS7 View Post

So from your comparison photos my conclusion would be that the K is a slightly shorter last, a tad narrower in the toe box and a little wider in the ball of the foot. Would you say this is a fair assessment?

well, there is a caveat to this comparison that I should have mentioned: The U-lasted is in EUR44 and the K-lasted is in EUR43,5. My true size is 43,5 and I actually ordered the U lasted in 43,5 from Margo and Ralph but they had converted the sizes on their website so when it says 43,5 they mean 44... long story short they had no true 43,5 and I decided to stick with them since the price was so low anyways

This makes an exact comparison a bit misleading but at least the general characteristics and main differences are seen

Therefore I would not say that the K is shorter but the toe box is a bit tighter and since I get the feeling that although the Us are larger in size the ball still feels smaller so there I would agree
post #2801 of 20276
K looks just like U, disappointing.

F is the best.
post #2802 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir View Post

Uneven feet make it very hard for fit on short stocky last,
me have same problem and find elongated last (F) the best.
3636 and budapest last is short and stocky and it hard to fit for uneven foot.
3636 fit like budapest last,
try 44 but it might be loose on right foot so be careful.

Thanks! I'm always ok to wear a thin insole if need be to take up extra space. The right foot being a touch loose is something I considered. Any new last even from a maker you know and trust is always a bit of a gamble I've found.
post #2803 of 20276
For genuine MTO, you could probably have the right and left done in different sizes.
post #2804 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

For genuine MTO, you could probably have the right and left done in different sizes.

True and something I've considered.
post #2805 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Gdot View Post

Insane pricing. We need a proxy. NOW!
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Originally Posted by LaGourgandine View Post

Talking about price... don't you all order them directly from Vass? If so, how come you are surprised by the price?
I live 10 minutes from them and I wouldn't mind proxying a few pairs if needed.
Cheers
Léo

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