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post #19966 of 20265
I had the same issue with the U last; with the SP (half size down from the U) it interestingly was less pronounced. Although I like the U last, I've moved to others for oxfords.

I also had the width hypothesis, which makes sense as if you have flat feet it may cause the walls to bow. When I followed the AE thread, this was a common issue for them.

Another hypothesis I have is the circumference of the opening. I noticed Vass has a larger opening compared to my other shoes where this was not an issue (e.g., EG, G&G, AS, C&J). Maybe that is also a factor?
post #19967 of 20265
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Originally Posted by SuitedDx View Post

I had the same issue with the U last; with the SP (half size down from the U) it interestingly was less pronounced. Although I like the U last, I've moved to others for oxfords.

I also had the width hypothesis, which makes sense as if you have flat feet it may cause the walls to bow. When I followed the AE thread, this was a common issue for them.

Another hypothesis I have is the circumference of the opening. I noticed Vass has a larger opening compared to my other shoes where this was not an issue (e.g., EG, G&G, AS, C&J). Maybe that is also a factor?

Thanks for the reply! I am so disappointed on this pair. I thought I nail the size this time. Everything fits except the problem described above.

 

For my particular pair, I am pretty sure the cause is that the heel cup of the shoe is too small. I feel the pressure on my arch (under my arch, not above), which means my arch is applying pressure to the inside wall of the quarter. The thing is, I am a medium feet. I wear all other shoes in medium width. So, your first hypothesis is more likely to be true.

 

About your second hypothesis, I am not sure, the one thing I notice is that the shoe tongue of my pair runs higher on the vamp.


Edited by Mica2015 - 9/30/16 at 7:26am
post #19968 of 20265
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Originally Posted by patliean1 View Post
 

Based on my own similar fit issues (with other brands) in the past the problem appears to be perhaps two things

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-The width is too narrow
-Pronation

Hey, thanks for the reply! Yes, width for sure. What do you mean by pronation? I have more pictures uploaded. If you wouldn't mind, could you please take a look on them? Thanks

 

Hi, just googled it. I think my pronation is within the "safe" range. Maybe, I really have a flat feet in medium width. It looks like to me flatness and width are too different things.


Edited by Mica2015 - 9/30/16 at 7:34am
post #19969 of 20265
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Originally Posted by Notch View Post

Would it be possible to get a side an top picture of your feet? Also, a frontal picture of your foot inside the shoe?

Here are the shots. What do you think? Thanks for the input.

By the way, I usually wear UK 7 ~ 7.5 medium. I am tring on VASS U last 41.5.

 

 

 

 

 

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post #19971 of 20265

^^^ Striking combo - congrats!

post #19972 of 20265
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Originally Posted by Mica2015 View Post
 

Hi, I am looking for help on the fit, and see if anyone share the problem. Please look at the pictures. I tried on pair of VASS U last oxford, size 41.5. Everything is alright except the mouth gape on two sides of ankle. My diagnosis is that my feel is bigger than the shoes's heel. Would ordering wide fitting solve this problem? Thanks for your input.

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Originally Posted by patliean1 View Post
 

Based on my own similar fit issues (with other brands) in the past the problem appears to be perhaps two things

:

-The width is too narrow
-Pronation

The shoe is definitely not too narrow. Well, to be precise, the width is not the cause of the gaping problem. The most likely culprit is having a low instep. The arch can actually be normal and the width of the foot likewise. The problem is due to foot volume not being high enough to fill out portions of the shoe. Given your comment our pressure in your arch, it might actually be of benefit to go up in size and move to a narrow fitting. This would lengthen the arch and lower the volume. Best of luck, this is a tricky problem to solve sometimes.

post #19973 of 20265
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Originally Posted by bdavro23 View Post
 

 

 

The shoe is definitely not too narrow. Well, to be precise, the width is not the cause of the gaping problem. The most likely culprit is having a low instep. The arch can actually be normal and the width of the foot likewise. The problem is due to foot volume not being high enough to fill out portions of the shoe. Given your comment our pressure in your arch, it might actually be of benefit to go up in size and move to a narrow fitting. This would lengthen the arch and lower the volume. Best of luck, this is a tricky problem to solve sometimes.

Hi bdavro23, Thanks for the reply.

 

About not enough volume of my instep, it may make the gaping more obvious, but  I don't think it's the cause. One reason is that I cannot close V-shape lacing gap easily. Does it not mean the volume is ok?

 

I think the real cause is my heel (my arch) crushing to the inside wall of the heel cup of the shoe (quarter). That explains the pressure or push I feel under my arch, especially on the inner side. 

 

I can rephase my problem as deformation of the "mouth". I think the cause is from down below (my arch), not from above (my instep). I just hope the shoe has less tapering near the waist. I suspect that would solve the problem.

 

Thanks for the suggestion

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Edited by samjerry - 10/4/16 at 8:19am
post #19975 of 20265

Hi, most of the problem you resent are;

 

1. Within the limit of product that involves certain amount of hand work.

2. You order a light color calf, the finish imperfections are going to be more obvious, you may take care of  them by some polish.

 

You may make a case on the crooked medallion, but other than that, I don't see a strong argument.

 

Shoemakers/retailer usually don't take issue on finishes seriously. You are better to argue on structure.

post #19976 of 20265

Has anyone tried ordering a Dainite sole with a stacked leather heel and rubber bottom, instead of a rull rubber heel?

post #19977 of 20265
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Originally Posted by patliean1 View Post
 

Has anyone tried ordering a Dainite sole with a stacked leather heel and rubber bottom, instead of a rull rubber heel?

 

I asked a while ago (maybe a year) and Rezso said no. But their answers do change!

post #19978 of 20265
The answer is indeed no. A rubber to rubber glue bond will always be stronger than a rubber to leather, is the official explanation.
post #19979 of 20265
2 more weeks until we close our GMTO for the Byron Boot! Still looking for participants.

Link: http://www.styleforum.net/t/529843/vass-x-jeeves-mahogany-english-grain-byron-boot-gmto-until-october-18

Besides the use of our own Mahogany English Grain leather, there are some striking features that make these boots truly unique. The leather is lightly treated with a mixture of oil and wax, rendering it very abbrasive and weather resistant. The boots feature a 270 degree Goyser welt, full rubber Dainite sole, and brass eyelets and speed hooks. The boots are pictured on the New Peter last but can be ordered on any last.

post #19980 of 20265

I'm not a loafer guy at all, but DAMN! :slayer:

 

 

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