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post #19696 of 20242
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Funny part is my feet don't like any Danite for full day wear but single leather sole it likes !!

Me like much single and HAF leather soles.
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Also, don't expect a pair of proper shoes to feel quite as comfortable as a pair of sneakers, especially over the course of a day.

 

I'm almost always in leather soled shoes, but as much as I love them, they'll never hold a candle comfort wise to my Chucks.

post #19698 of 20242
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I am going to Budapest next week. I will make time to check out a few hand made shoes stores there.
I usually wear Mephisto and high end sneakers, so I don't know if I will get any pair. From pictures on
the net, the shoes look beautiful, but my feet hurt when I try shoes that have leather soles.

 

The key has to be not to assess the level of comfort in the first five minutes - or the first five days.  It takes time to 'break in' a pair of Goodyear welted leather soles, but it is time invested well.  You will have a pair of beautiful, supportive and comfortable shoes which if treated well can last a lifetime. For me, there is always more comfort in a pair of worn in Goodyear welted shoes. The staff in the Vass shop are very helpful, I am sure they will help you find a pair which fit well. You wont regret it!

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The key has to be not to assess the level of comfort in the first five minutes - or the first five days.  It takes time to 'break in' a pair of Goodyear welted leather soles, but it is time invested well.  You will have a pair of beautiful, supportive and comfortable shoes which if treated well can last a lifetime. For me, there is always more comfort in a pair of worn in Goodyear welted shoes. The staff in the Vass shop are very helpful, I am sure they will help you find a pair which fit well. You wont regret it!

 

However, Vass shoes are not Goodyear welted.

post #19700 of 20242

Vass rubber soles after ca 18 months of heavy wear.

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #19701 of 20242
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However, Vass shoes are not Goodyear welted.

 

Oops yes, I stand corrected. All please note that my previous posting should have read 'hand welted' rather than Goodyear welted.  I hope Mr Vass and co will forgive me for overlooking their time consuming and highly skilled hand welting process. I don't have any excuse, I even have Mr Vass's book describing the process!

 

I have yet to break in my pair of Vass welted shoes, however, I suspect that the wearer would not notice much difference between breaking in a pair of hand welted or Goodyear welted shoes? 

post #19702 of 20242
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Anyone that does or has the capability to fully stitch a rubber sole. Since we're talking about a hand welted maker, Bonafe can do it and I plan to have StC do it for my next MTO.

StC doesn't hand stitch any soles unless you buy bespoke. They use machine to stitch leather soles.

And, as can be seen on my own pair, rubber soles are not stitched att all.
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^^^ Regarding the last pages of discussion about rubber soles, much have already been said, but thought I'd add a bit. Basically no one fully hand stitch a rubber sole. When you put an awl through rubber and remove it, the rubber immediately closes up, unlike leather where you then have an open hole to pull the needle and thread through. This makes it very hard to hand stitch rubber soles, and awls can break and needles get damaged.

With proper glue and (for rubber soles you always use glue, not paste) especially with that reinforcement stitch at the toe there's likely no problem with soles coming off, and if it gets loose at the edge somewhere in time (which happens every now and then with fully sewn leather soles as well) it's easily glued back together.

The only thing I have problem with regarding how Vass do their rubber soles is that they use a full rubber heel (at least last time I ordered). I definitely prefer leather heel stacks and only the top piece in rubber, as it's usually made by most brands.
Edited by j ingevaldsson - 7/26/16 at 9:17am
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I am about to have the same pair of Vass MTO redone for the second time because of some significant issue:  toe cap that should not have been there had been added on the first pair made, and the color is wrong on the first re-do.

 

I wanted to ask those who might have been in similar situations what the outcome was in their cases.

 

Did Vass eventually deliver the shoes made to specifications?  Or else?...

post #19705 of 20242
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^^^ Regarding the last pages of discussion about rubber soles, much have already been said, but thought I'd add a bit. Basically no one fully hand stitch a rubber sole. When you put an awl through rubber and remove it, the rubber immediately closes up, unlike leather where you then have an open hole to pull the needle and thread through. This makes it very hard to hand stitch rubber soles, and awls can break and needles get damaged.

With proper glue and (for rubber soles you always use glue, not paste) especially with that reinforcement stitch at the toe there's likely no problem with soles coming off, and if it gets loose at the edge somewhere in time (which happens every now and then with fully sewn leather soles as well) it's easily glued back together.

The only thing I have problem with regarding how Vass do their rubber soles is that they use a full rubber heel (at least last time I ordered). I definitely prefer leather heel stacks and only the top piece in rubber, as it's usually made by most brands.

 

Your balanced perspective on these matters is most welcome.

post #19706 of 20242
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I am about to have the same pair of Vass MTO redone for the second time because of some significant issue:  toe cap that should not have been there had been added on the first pair made, and the color is wrong on the first re-do.

 

I wanted to ask those who might have been in similar situations what the outcome was in their cases.

 

Did Vass eventually deliver the shoes made to specifications?  Or else?...

 

The only time I had a pair redone was when they made a pair in brown calf instead of brown shell.

Other than that I've accepted pairs with the color being slightly different, or minor style deviations-- they're are all part of the vass charm.

If I were more particular about the exact color/style details, I'd probably look elsewhere.

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There have been far too few pictures of late, so I thought I would share the following. I stopped by my local tailor shop yesterday who has an account with Vass and saw these...

 

Brown Museum Calf, Brown, Oxblood, Black, Brown. Really, really beautiful, with the Museum Calf wingtips being the star of the show...

post #19708 of 20242
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I am about to have the same pair of Vass MTO redone for the second time because of some significant issue:  toe cap that should not have been there had been added on the first pair made, and the color is wrong on the first re-do.

 

I wanted to ask those who might have been in similar situations what the outcome was in their cases.

 

Did Vass eventually deliver the shoes made to specifications?  Or else?...

 

 

The only time I had a pair redone was when they made a pair in brown calf instead of brown shell.

Other than that I've accepted pairs with the color being slightly different, or minor style deviations-- they're are all part of the vass charm.

If I were more particular about the exact color/style details, I'd probably look elsewhere.

Thanks for your thoughts.  I guess you are right:  While I own several pairs of Vass RTW and I enjoy them very much, it seems it could be difficult to get a pair of MTO shoes made to exact specifications.  It is my first MTO experience with Vass, and, I did not know or expect that when I started this process.

post #19709 of 20242
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The only time I had a pair redone was when they made a pair in brown calf instead of brown shell.

Other than that I've accepted pairs with the color being slightly different, or minor style deviations-- they're are all part of the vass charm.

If I were more particular about the exact color/style details, I'd probably look elsewhere.

With all due respect, I don't think rather glaring errors are charming, and I would consider wrong color and significant styling details glaring.

 

I would expect and hope (assuming shoes are remain unworn) Vass to be willing to remake products featuring such errors.

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The only time I had a pair redone was when they made a pair in brown calf instead of brown shell.

Other than that I've accepted pairs with the color being slightly different, or minor style deviations-- they're are all part of the vass charm.

If I were more particular about the exact color/style details, I'd probably look elsewhere.

 

 

With all due respect, I don't think rather glaring errors are charming, and I would consider wrong color and significant styling details glaring.

 

I would expect and hope (assuming shoes are remain unworn) Vass to be willing to remake products featuring such errors.

With regards to your expectations,  I can reassure you that they have been met both by the retailer handling my order and by Vass:   The retailer has been most helpful and has promptly asked for the shoes to be re-done.  Vass has not refused to re-do the shoes so far.  

 

My only concern is that the shoes have not been made to order (I share your opinion that the differences were significant enough to warrant re-dos), and, I thought I'd check with others who might have had similar experiences.


Edited by cypi2 - 7/26/16 at 4:21pm
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