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post #1921 of 20544
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cross from central, F last 3 eye derby in black box


like the versatility of the 3 eye derby

I have and love these. A great choice.
post #1922 of 20544
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I have and love these. A great choice.

a fellow 3 eye fan. they do rock yeah? less is more
post #1923 of 20544
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+1 Magyar is good
these are not Vass, but just round the corner at Demeter Halmos
Norweger, Freudenburg calf, three quarter goyser, double sole.

would you mind posting them in the austro-hungarian thread, many thanks.

what is a dover?
post #1924 of 20544
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a fellow 3 eye fan. they do rock yeah? less is more
curious, what makes them more versatile than their 5/6 eye brethern?
post #1925 of 20544
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would you mind posting them in the austro-hungarian thread, many thanks.

what is a dover?
didn't know about this, great
yes, very similar to the Dover, broader last
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curious, what makes them more versatile than their 5/6 eye brethern?
the longer vamp when covered by a low cut trouser hem means it looks like an Oxford, but has the casualness of a Derby if needed. Also, simple = versatile IMO
post #1926 of 20544
that halmos shoe looks nice
post #1927 of 20544
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didn't know about this, great

many thanks

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the longer vamp when covered by a low cut trouser hem means it looks like an Oxford, but has the casualness of a Derby if needed. Also, simple = versatile IMO

ah, ok.
post #1928 of 20544
Am thinking about popping my Vass cherry...

... but a quick sizing question first: if I am a 9UK in C&J 341/337 or Church's 173, what F-last size should I get if I am after a chukka?

43 or 43.5?
post #1929 of 20544
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Am thinking about popping my Vass cherry...

... but a quick sizing question first: if I am a 9UK in C&J 341/337 or Church's 173, what F-last size should I get if I am after a chukka?

43 or 43.5?

Apropos, 43 is equivalent to a UK9. IMO chukkas stretch more than any other shoe, (although Slewfoot says his Vass chukkas haven't stretched a few posts back) so I would go 43 not 43.5
post #1930 of 20544
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curious, what makes them more versatile than their 5/6 eye brethern?

I never said they are more versatile, but, for me, I prefer less adorned open-laced shoes and the reduced number of eyelets is in keeping with that preference. Now that I think about it, I own only two- and three-eyelet bluchers/derbys.
post #1931 of 20544
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ah, ok.
post #1932 of 20544
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Apropos, 43 is equivalent to a UK9. IMO chukkas stretch more than any other shoe, (although Slewfoot says his Vass chukkas haven't stretched a few posts back) so I would go 43 not 43.5

fwiw, it also depends on fit preferences. e.g. snug versus "loose"

another factor is the ability and willingness to work on fit.
post #1933 of 20544
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Apropos, 43 is equivalent to a UK9. IMO chukkas stretch more than any other shoe, (although Slewfoot says his Vass chukkas haven't stretched a few posts back) so I would go 43 not 43.5
Thanks for that. As per fritzl I prefer my shoes to fit snug.

Any comment on how the P2 fits compared with the F? I would imagine there would be less elongation, and more width in the same size.
post #1934 of 20544
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As per fritzl I prefer my shoes to fit snug.

ah, ok.
post #1935 of 20544
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Thanks for that. As per fritzl I prefer my shoes to fit snug.

Any comment on how the P2 fits compared with the F? I would imagine there would be less elongation, and more width in the same size.

I don't think they're wider. If they are it's not by much. If you look at the P2 tree it's just a bit fatter overall - a slightly higher and more rounded toe box. I really like the P2: it's not clunky, and although it's not as exciting as the F or the U, it has a nice balance, which is very hard to achieve and seems to take shoemakers years to perfect. Bit like the EG 202 in its smooth roundedness. the other distinguishing features are the unbevelled waist and the heel: it's broader and flatter (lower) than the F last. I think the Norweger, for example, looks better in the P2 than the F.
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