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post #16621 of 20259
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

@Fred G. Unn has museum shoes from Vass, Carmina, and Bonafe. Maybe he can comment on differences in leather and finishing.
The Bonafe museum calf definitely seems thinner and more prone to wrinkling than Vass or Carmina, which both seem fairly robust. Perhaps this isn't due to the museum calf itself, but the lining thickness used, I can't really say. It's sort of hard to judge from such a tiny sample size (I have 1 pair of Bonafe museum, 1 Carmina museum, and 3 Vass museum), but to me there seems to be a definite difference between Bonafe and the other two brands.
post #16622 of 20259
I just read the last month's worth of posts ITT but I'm still a little confused on being a U.S. customer and ordering a pair of MTO directly from Vass. On their website it looks like you can just send them an email with all the details and they will work with you to place the order. But most of the comments seem to imply that if you're in the U.S. you need to go through a 3rd party retailer instead of going direct. That seems like something they should make a note of on their site.

My issue is that my right foot is about a 1/2 size bigger than my left, and I'm looking for a shoe brand that can make me some shoes that actually fit well by doing different sizes for the left and right shoe. Seems like Vass might be a good option, but it's a shame if you're in the U.S. and you can't order direct.
post #16623 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post

I thought it came from Bonaudo Tannery.
They started with Ilcea then switched to Bonaudo when Ilcea shut down. They went back to Ilcea when they reopened so they had several duplicate colors until they ran out of the Bonaudo they had. This was when people specified whether they wanted light or dark gold museum. From my understanding, they have no more Bonaudo and only use Ilcea, so no more specifying what color since its all the same.
post #16624 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post

I just read the last month's worth of posts ITT but I'm still a little confused on being a U.S. customer and ordering a pair of MTO directly from Vass. On their website it looks like you can just send them an email with all the details and they will work with you to place the order. But most of the comments seem to imply that if you're in the U.S. you need to go through a 3rd party retailer instead of going direct. That seems like something they should make a note of on their site.

My issue is that my right foot is about a 1/2 size bigger than my left, and I'm looking for a shoe brand that can make me some shoes that actually fit well by doing different sizes for the left and right shoe. Seems like Vass might be a good option, but it's a shame if you're in the U.S. and you can't order direct.

 

As I understand it, if you weren't a US customer before NMWA became a retailer, you can no longer order directly from Vass. That isn't stated on their website, but I assume that they would politely decline your order. You can order MTO through NMWA or one of the other sources. Vass is a great option for getting shoes in different sizes, though. I order a quarter size smaller for my left foot. It's not a problem at all.

post #16625 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Beatlegeuse View Post

I just read the last month's worth of posts ITT but I'm still a little confused on being a U.S. customer and ordering a pair of MTO directly from Vass. On their website it looks like you can just send them an email with all the details and they will work with you to place the order. But most of the comments seem to imply that if you're in the U.S. you need to go through a 3rd party retailer instead of going direct. That seems like something they should make a note of on their site.

My issue is that my right foot is about a 1/2 size bigger than my left, and I'm looking for a shoe brand that can make me some shoes that actually fit well by doing different sizes for the left and right shoe. Seems like Vass might be a good option, but it's a shame if you're in the U.S. and you can't order direct.

 

I'm bit confused as well and haven't received a clear answer (yet). I'm traveling to Budapest in a couple weeks so I'm planning to purchase a couple of MTOs in store but I'm concerned about future orders. Originally I thought the deal was as long as your initial MTO was purchased in person you could then, going forward, use their online site for future MTOs. Can anyone clarify?

post #16626 of 20259
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Originally Posted by patliean1 View Post
 

 

I'm bit confused as well and haven't received a clear answer (yet). I'm traveling to Budapest in a couple weeks so I'm planning to purchase a couple of MTOs in store but I'm concerned about future orders. Originally I thought the deal was as long as your initial MTO was purchased in person you could then, going forward, use their online site for future MTOs. Can anyone clarify?

 

You're concerned before you've even placed your first order?

 

Relax bud, you're going to Budapest!!! I'm sure you'll be able to work something out when you're there. 

post #16627 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Mr. Six View Post

As I understand it, if you weren't a US customer before NMWA became a retailer, you can no longer order directly from Vass. That isn't stated on their website, but I assume that they would politely decline your order. You can order MTO through NMWA or one of the other sources. Vass is a great option for getting shoes in different sizes, though. I order a quarter size smaller for my left foot. It's not a problem at all.

Great, thanks for the info! I've bought a ton of stuff from NMWA (well, maybe not a ton by SF standards) and I like working with them, but I'm sure I'll end up spending significantly more than if I were able to go direct. Also, I'm still trying to work out my size, so I don't know how difficult that will be as far as trying some on before I place the final order.
post #16628 of 20259
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Originally Posted by rc121 View Post


They started with Ilcea then switched to Bonaudo when Ilcea shut down. They went back to Ilcea when they reopened so they had several duplicate colors until they ran out of the Bonaudo they had. This was when people specified whether they wanted light or dark gold museum. From my understanding, they have no more Bonaudo and only use Ilcea, so no more specifying what color since its all the same.

OK. That makes sense. Thanks.

post #16629 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Fred G. Unn View Post


The Bonafe museum calf definitely seems thinner and more prone to wrinkling than Vass or Carmina, which both seem fairly robust. Perhaps this isn't due to the museum calf itself, but the lining thickness used, I can't really say. It's sort of hard to judge from such a tiny sample size (I have 1 pair of Bonafe museum, 1 Carmina museum, and 3 Vass museum), but to me there seems to be a definite difference between Bonafe and the other two brands.

Yeah,  It is quite hard to tell the thickness of the leather due to the lining.  Sometimes you can have an idea from the the tongue area if the leather goes a bit higher than the lining.

post #16630 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Zapasman View Post
 

Yeah,  It is quite hard to tell the thickness of the leather due to the lining.  Sometimes you can have an idea from the the tongue area if the leather goes a bit higher than the lining.

 

there's also the reinforcement (fabric/mesh) that some manfacturers put between the lining and the upper, making it harder to judge the actual thickness of the leather

post #16631 of 20259
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Originally Posted by sleepyinsanfran View Post

there's also the reinforcement (fabric/mesh) that some manfacturers put between the lining and the upper, making it harder to judge the actual thickness of the leather

Most, not some. Even Vass or bespoke shoemakers put reinforcements between lining and upper or along seam edges to fortify the structural integrity of shoes.

Aside from heel and toe stiffeners, there's usually reinforcement alongside the lake/top line, facing, and side of the vamps.
post #16632 of 20259
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Originally Posted by Mr. Six View Post

As I understand it, if you weren't a US customer before NMWA became a retailer, you can no longer order directly from Vass. That isn't stated on their website, but I assume that they would politely decline your order. You can order MTO through NMWA or one of the other sources. Vass is a great option for getting shoes in different sizes, though. I order a quarter size smaller for my left foot. It's not a problem at all.

Great, thanks for the info! I've bought a ton of stuff from NMWA (well, maybe not a ton by SF standards) and I like working with them, but I'm sure I'll end up spending significantly more than if I were able to go direct. Also, I'm still trying to work out my size, so I don't know how difficult that will be as far as trying some on before I place the final order.

 

I don't want to speak for Greg, but I have to believe that he'd work something out with you to try a couple of sizes as part of an MTO.

post #16633 of 20259
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post


Most, not some. Even Vass or bespoke shoemakers put reinforcements between lining and upper or along seam edges to fortify the structural integrity of shoes.

Aside from heel and toe stiffeners, there's usually reinforcement alongside the lake/top line, facing, and side of the vamps.

Yeah, All that is why the only way to check it is through the upper side of the tongue.

post #16634 of 20259

 

Love the dark brown and green shell bluchers

post #16635 of 20259
Vass stocking green shell now? I wonder about navy. Anyone have latest Intel?
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