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post #15706 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

I realize it's tedious, but can some people with experience suggest a good starting point for Vass F last sizing?

I measure between 7.5 and 7.75 on the Brannock, and I definitely have a narrow foot (even more so the heel than the forefoot).

I wear a 7.5 length in all the normal fitting Alden lasts (Hampton, Aberdeen, Leydon, etc) and could probably take a B width, though I haven't tried. I get a nice fit from the Hampton in 7.5C when I wear thick socks.

I'm a UK 6.5E in the C&J 325, though I can again wear thick socks so a narrow would be better. I take a UK 6.5E in the C&J 314, but that's a little short. A UK 7 extra narrow would probably be a better fit.

I'd like to figure out my sizing in the F last. Having read this whole thread... I'm trying to decide between a 40.5 and a 41. I'll probably pick up a standard width for fitting purposes rather than MTO a narrow right of the bat. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

Ok - you're pretty much close to my sizing, so this is my feedback. I have average ish foot shape so I can fit into most without too many issues.

I wear UK6.5E for C&J 348/358 lasts and in the RL Marlow wingtip 325 (?) last I wear US7.5D - all three lasts fit ok however slight heel slippage for me

When I first attempted Vass F - I went for 40.5EU which ended up slightly too big, long in the vamp and oxfords closed completey (search my photos on this thread). Gutted I was and another 6-8 weeks wait for the MTO to be re-made.
I half sized down to 40EU which is perfect for me and incidently I wear 40EU in F, K and U lasts.

The F last for me fits nice width wise and the OEII has the nicest heel fit in all the shoes I own.

This thread has been on fire for a while now and it's been way too long since my last MTO!
post #15707 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Torsion View Post

I wear UK6.5E for C&J 348/358 lasts and in the RL Marlow wingtip 325 (?) last I wear US7.5D - all three lasts fit ok however slight heel slippage for me

When I first attempted Vass F - I went for 40.5EU which ended up slightly too big, long in the vamp and oxfords closed completey (search my photos on this thread). Gutted I was and another 6-8 weeks wait for the MTO to be re-made.
I half sized down to 40EU which is perfect for me and incidently I wear 40EU in F, K and U lasts.

Thanks for the feedback. That's slightly surprising to hear. I have the same Marlows, which are indeed on the 325, but in a US 7D. They're definitely my smallest shoes, but I'm pretty sure that C&J/RL were only sizing them down .5 from the UK to US sizing - at least when I bought them. I have the Gifford from the same time and they where definitely a UK 6.5 to US 7 conversion and they're identical to my Marlows.

As a counterpoint, both Gregg from NMWA and Mr Kuti suggest a 41 in the F!
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Really? I'm quite surprised with that. 41 sounds way too big. I wear the exact same size as you Joe in the 325 last, and if you can still wear thick socks, you can definitely fit in a size 39.5 F last. This is the same size as @wurger I believe. The F last is slight more elongated and they feel snugger because of its tighter waist but it sounds like that might suit you since you have slimmer feet.

 

I've attached some photos for comparison. F last oxford (39.5 EU) and 325 CJ Cavendish (6.5 UK). Both have standard widths.

 

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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


Thanks for the feedback. That's slightly surprising to hear. I have the same Marlows, which are indeed on the 325, but in a US 7D. They're definitely my smallest shoes, but I'm pretty sure that C&J/RL were only sizing them down .5 from the UK to US sizing - at least when I bought them. I have the Clifford from the same time and they where definitely a UK 6.5 to US 7 conversion and they're identical to my Marlows.

As a counterpoint, both Gregg from NMWA and Mr Kuti suggest a 41 in the F!

 

 

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It's hard to argue with those photos. Thank you very much! I've avoided Vass because I wasted such a huge amount of money figuring out my Alden size, and I was actually able to try those on before buying...
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Sure no worries. Although, I only wear slim socks with them.

post #15711 of 20276
Hm, UK 6.5 in C&J would mean 40 in Vass F
post #15712 of 20276
Mr Kuti is suggesting that I buy a pair to size and we swap out until we get to the optimal length. If the width works, great. If not, I'll exchange for a narrow. I have a high instep (I've never been able to come anywhere close to getting a nice "V" on a pair of bals, even ones that are too wide), so I'll probably start at 40.5 and see what's what.

Now just to pick out a style and leather.
post #15713 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

Thanks for the feedback. That's slightly surprising to hear. I have the same Marlows, which are indeed on the 325, but in a US 7D. They're definitely my smallest shoes, but I'm pretty sure that C&J/RL were only sizing them down .5 from the UK to US sizing - at least when I bought them. I have the Gifford from the same time and they where definitely a UK 6.5 to US 7 conversion and they're identical to my Marlows.

As a counterpoint, both Gregg from NMWA and Mr Kuti suggest a 41 in the F!

I could be wrong about the Marlow size - will check tonight, could be 7D. Was just going by memory!
post #15714 of 20276
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Originally Posted by aglose View Post


Was this directed at me or @vmss?

not at you

 

also, if Greg suggests a size, go with that. he has more experience than anyone on the last few pages - as he actually sells them, and has dealt with sizing through many customers

 

FWIW - 

 

Carmina Simpson 8.5 (UK)

AE  5 last 9.5 (US)

Vass U and F - 42.5

post #15715 of 20276
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

not at you

also, if Greg suggests a size, go with that. he has more experience than anyone on the last few pages - as he actually sells them, and has dealt with sizing through many customers

FWIW - 

Carmina Simpson 8.5 (UK)
AE  5 last 9.5 (US)
Vass U and F - 42.5
Bud you are same size as me can you tell me what all sizes you take on Edward green or any other. I tried AE last 5 & strands 9.5D good snug fit. Bought vass DB she'll on k last size 43 hope they fit. You help would be greatly appricated.
post #15716 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post

As a counterpoint, both Gregg from NMWA and Mr Kuti suggest a 41 in the F!

 

Did I?   Did you provide the same info when I suggested a 41?   If someone tells me he's a UK 6.5E in C&J, I would normally suggest a 40,5 in Vass F (maybe even 40 if the UK 6.5E is a tad roomy).  If the forefoot is on the narrow side, also 40,5 in Vass U.

post #15717 of 20276
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Did I?   Did you provide the same info when I suggested a 41?   If someone tells me he's a UK 6.5E in C&J, I would normally suggest a 40,5 in Vass F (maybe even 40 if the UK 6.5E is a tad roomy).  If the forefoot is on the narrow side, also 40,5 in Vass U.

I didn't mention my C&J size, as I hadn't had sufficient wear time on them to feel comfortable suggesting they fit. Here's what I said:
" I comfortably wear a 7.5C (and maybe even a B) in the Alden Hampton last. I measure right in between a 7.5C and an 8B on the Brannock. Complicating things, I have a somewhat high arch."

and your reply:
"I would recommend a 41 in Vass F, based on your stats. I do not think that Vass has standard narrow fit F last for orders - I believe it's either regular or wide."
post #15718 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


I didn't mention my C&J size, as I hadn't had sufficient wear time on them to feel comfortable suggesting they fit. Here's what I said:
" I comfortably wear a 7.5C (and maybe even a B) in the Alden Hampton last. I measure right in between a 7.5C and an 8B on the Brannock. Complicating things, I have a somewhat high arch."

and your reply:
"I would recommend a 41 in Vass F, based on your stats. I do not think that Vass has standard narrow fit F last for orders - I believe it's either regular or wide."

 

Thanks - I remember now.  The C&J size helps because I would otherwise equate 7.5-8 on the Brannock to 40.5-41 in Vass F.    I believe we've also confirmed with Rezso that he could actually go down one width on the F last MTO, correct?

post #15719 of 20276
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

Thanks - I remember now.  The C&J size helps because I would otherwise equate 7.5-8 on the Brannock to 40.5-41 in Vass F.    I believe we've also confirmed with Rezso that he could actually go down one width on the F last MTO, correct?

Yep, one width RTW and two MTO.
post #15720 of 20276
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Originally Posted by Joenobody0 View Post


Yep, one width RTW and two MTO.

 

I think you mean one width RTW/MTO and two made-to-measure ?

 

Anyhow - I'd probably go 40,5 narrow with your stats

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