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post #1456 of 20218
Still don't like the way those creases are going.
post #1457 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
I see these sorts of comments about larger size shoes all the time. But they've never really made sense to me. On a larger size, the entire shoe is scaled up, not just the toe. The shoe's proportions and appearnace shouldn't change. That's assuming your foot size is in proportion to your height. If you're 5'7" with a size 12 shoe, that's probably another matter.
It's OK. I wore my Carmina brown semis on the Simpson last today and realized they are very similar to the U lasted Vass. So I don't really have that hankering anymore. Thanks!
post #1458 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Northampton Novice View Post
Still don't like the way those creases are going.

They look fine to me. I've noticed with a lot of leathers that after the first initial wearing the creases are a bit lighter in color than they normally are. Not sure what causes it exactly, but it almost seems like the minor creasing upon the first wear is equal to a slight cracking of the leather which almost gives off a dust like impression. When you wipe that away they look fine. No need to worry about such little things or you'll drive yourself crazy.
post #1459 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post
They look fine to me. I've noticed with a lot of leathers that after the first initial wearing the creases are a bit lighter in color than they normally are. Not sure what causes it exactly, but it almost seems like the minor creasing upon the first wear is equal to a slight cracking of the leather which almost gives off a dust like impression. When you wipe that away they look fine. No need to worry about such little things or you'll drive yourself crazy.


Agree. I've seen much the same thing with my Vass. I've never gotten "Italian polish" though, and don't know if that wears any differently.
post #1460 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post
P2 being a fair bit lower in profile (and longer) than 3636.

Anyone have comparison pictures of the P2 vs 3636? I'm having a hard time picturing this.
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post #1462 of 20218
Three new pairs that just came in. All are on the F last.











post #1463 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post
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when i have been to the folks at handmacher recently and "we" were comparing the same shoe in the three widths they offer a thought came to my mind.

imo, vass is compensating the usual width system through their lasts.

F = narrow
P2 = medium
3636, Budapester = wide

keep in mind that vass and their fellow competitors from the austrian hungarian school were mainly producing derbies/bluchers and most of the knowledge went into them.

having the F & U last in the line up is only a recent "phenomen". also, that the oversea and anglo american client is more on the bals train. i don't have numbers handy but as far as i know, they still sell/produce more open laced models, e.g. due to the distinct budapester design.

apparently, some also mix up the budapest model with the last, which is a different animal.
post #1464 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post
They look fine to me. I've noticed with a lot of leathers that after the first initial wearing the creases are a bit lighter in color than they normally are. Not sure what causes it exactly, but it almost seems like the minor creasing upon the first wear is equal to a slight cracking of the leather which almost gives off a dust like impression. When you wipe that away they look fine. No need to worry about such little things or you'll drive yourself crazy.

ah, the mystery of the creases: my theory is that this is the wax surface cracking, not the leather creasing. I've noticed this happening when I pile on too much polish and wear the shoes next day. Fine white cracking all over the place. Solution is to strip them back and start again.
post #1465 of 20218
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Originally Posted by brax View Post
Three new pairs that just came in. All are on the F last.

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Excellent stuff. Gotta love the F, the fit it's just perfect for my very average feet and as an altitudinally challenged person I'm partial to the heel elevation. The F last is a new design but almost identical in 3 dimensions to the AS 48 which I believe is quite an old English last.
post #1466 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Pliny View Post
ah, the mystery of the creases: my theory is that this is the wax surface cracking, not the leather creasing. I've noticed this happening when I pile on too much polish and wear the shoes next day. Fine white cracking all over the place. Solution is to strip them back and start again.

Thanks as that's probably more of what's going on.

Brax - great stuff!
post #1467 of 20218
Nice
post #1468 of 20218
As always, this thread needs more photos.

NST high boot
P2 last
dark brown calf
double sole tapering to a single

I've been loving this boot recently and I don't understand why people don't seem to order it more often. Very versatile and sturdy. I included some detailed shots so you can see the stitching and waist.














London derby
F last
dark brown suede
double sole tapering to a single

I think this gives off a great example of the classic qualities of the F last. Tough to beat.





post #1469 of 20218
Damn, that NST high boot is great.
post #1470 of 20218
Great stuff, David. If I were to ever go the Vass route, I'd probably go with the P2.
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