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post #13381 of 20218
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Haha I was going to wait to get some natural light photos, but here are a couple kitchen light ones, in addition to those provided by Vass. Whiskey austerity U-wing on F-last: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
 











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These are 43.5, and will be in the marketplace this coming weekend. PM if you want details.

Gorgeous ucap. Good luck with sale I hope they go to a good home in case you decide to follow through with the sale. They are absolutely fantastic. I never thought to make an austerity ucap. I don't think we will see a makeup like this for a long time. The Kuti-Meister said they are all out of the lighter shell
post #13382 of 20218
OK, my F oxfords (wide fitting?) came today. Black shell, quarter-brogue.

They are slim and elegant indeed. So elegant that they could plausibly be a bespoke London product, if you don't look too long. But so slim that I had trouble putting them on. Also, the quarters don't close up parallel the way they do for P2 and 3636 oxfords (normal width). There's still close to a centimeter's separation at the top.

That said, they give decent support, probably better than P2 which sometimes seems a little flat on the insole. The heel is very tight, unlike the 3636 whose comfortable looseness may have contributed to a small nerve injury while I was walking on medieval cobblestones last month. The whole thing fits well in the sense that it is equally tight all over without pinching. And shell can stretch a bit. So while I'm quite aware that these aren't bespoke, I am not too worried--yet.

The only question now is whether I would buy more on this last. One motivation to get more than one is travel-- if you have two pair of anything that use the same last, that's one less pair of shoe trees you need to take. And this particular pair would be very useful in getting around in the city during wintertime. The shell creates the potential for good support while walking, and will be less prone to damage by snow, salt, and rain than calf. The metal toe tap adds a little bullet-proofing to the sole.

Nevertheless, I wonder if these would be too tight to put on after a long flight and some salty restaurant food. We'll have to wait after the breaking-in period to be sure. Also, these are oxfords with a lot of seams. A derby for Pair 2, either a Norweger or a plain-toed Londoner might come with a tad more room, especially if made from something other than fine calf. Shell, Scotch-grain, or camel, for example.
post #13383 of 20218
Ucap with the old English/Galway shaft design





post #13384 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

OK, my F oxfords (wide fitting?) came today. Black shell, quarter-brogue.

They are slim and elegant indeed. So elegant that they could plausibly be a bespoke London product, if you don't look too long. But so slim that I had trouble putting them on. Also, the quarters don't close up parallel the way they do for P2 and 3636 oxfords (normal width). There's still close to a centimeter's separation at the top.

That said, they give decent support, probably better than P2 which sometimes seems a little flat on the insole. The heel is very tight, unlike the 3636 whose comfortable looseness may have contributed to a small nerve injury while I was walking on medieval cobblestones last month. The whole thing fits well in the sense that it is equally tight all over without pinching. And shell can stretch a bit. So while I'm quite aware that these aren't bespoke, I am not too worried--yet.

The only question now is whether I would buy more on this last. One motivation to get more than one is travel-- if you have two pair of anything that use the same last, that's one less pair of shoe trees you need to take. And this particular pair would be very useful in getting around in the city during wintertime. The shell creates the potential for good support while walking, and will be less prone to damage by snow, salt, and rain than calf. The metal toe tap adds a little bullet-proofing to the sole.

Nevertheless, I wonder if these would be too tight to put on after a long flight and some salty restaurant food. We'll have to wait after the breaking-in period to be sure. Also, these are oxfords with a lot of seams. A derby for Pair 2, either a Norweger or a plain-toed Londoner might come with a tad more room, especially if made from something other than fine calf. Shell, Scotch-grain, or camel, for example.

Pics! Did you notice that creasing across the vamp? F last is sleeker than p2 but the toe is just slightly bulbous and raised just a touch from the vamp causing creasing from just a few steps

The f last boots I posted above suffer from this as well. Oddly enough f last shell norweger doesn't have as a pronounced effect probably from the design and heavy stitching
post #13385 of 20218
I'm not finding much volume in the toes, so there isn't any tell-tale shell creasing yet. Of course, the widest part of my foot is pretty far forward. And while the profile has just a hint of Central European DNA (or is that northern Italian?), they are remarkably svelte from any angle that doesn't involve sniffing carpet. Doubtless, the black color helps there, too.
post #13386 of 20218
More shell action f last whiskey Galway. Vass did it again, single piece of shell, will be interesting to see how they age/crease especially across the vamp







post #13387 of 20218

Wonder if they can do the Lindrick broguing on the ankles.

 

post #13388 of 20218
^vass is probably one of the only few shoe makers where you don't have to speak in hypotheticals. Ime, they have been pretty flexible to work with and provide timely responses. Just email Kuti and ask
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I'm not finding much volume in the toes, so there isn't any tell-tale shell creasing yet. Of course, the widest part of my foot is pretty far forward. And while the profile has just a hint of Central European DNA (or is that northern Italian?), they are remarkably svelte from any angle that doesn't involve sniffing carpet. Doubtless, the black color helps there, too.

What size did you go for? Or did you specify a wider fit or provide measurements based on other lasts?
post #13389 of 20218
My usual size-- 45. I asked for wider and they suggested that "G" width would make it all work, given that P2 was a more or less exact match across the instep.
post #13390 of 20218
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Originally Posted by Concordia View Post

My usual size-- 45. I asked for wider and they suggested that "G" width would make it all work, given that P2 was a more or less exact match across the instep.

did you opt for trees? how do they fit?
post #13391 of 20218
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did you opt for trees? how do they fit?
I took them out this morning, and haven't yet returned them. I'm assuming they fit pretty well.
post #13392 of 20218
cool let me know how they fit. ive been generally disappointed with the fit of their "lasted" trees. my most recent order size 45f f last trees fit the shoes very well so im hoping this is the new trend and not a fluke

also, post pics when you get a chance. havent seen a vass shell shoe i didnt like smile.gif
post #13393 of 20218
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

More shell action f last whiskey Galway. Vass did it again, single piece of shell, will be interesting to see how they age/crease especially across the vamp
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I really like the shape of the backstay where it meets the vamp and the quarters. I have not seen that before.

These are beautiful. Will they me yours NAMOR (and those u-caps too?)

@concordia Black shell oxfords sound very good. I keep meaning to get a pair in black shell.

Your F lost fit vs. P2 fit sounds pretty much identical to mine, though that's standard width F last for me.

I'm not quite sue from your post if you are wondering if your shoes are in fact G width, but I have a pair of G width P2s (I tried 44.5G instead of 45F... incidentally they are wearable but not really an improvement over 45F) and the shoe trees are the standard width so the fit is loose. If it is the same for yours, then that maybe a clue that they are indeed G width. I don't recall an other indicator on my P2s.

I hope the fit works out well for you and I'd be interested in seeing photos too.
post #13394 of 20218
^ thats a good measuring stick actually: using the trees as a gauge of shoe width

thanks for the comment on the boot. i sent kuti and couple of pics and they recreated it nicely. looks even better on the brogue ucap i think
post #13395 of 20218
Wow @NAMOR, what the hell. Killing it man. Everytime you post a new boot I get more confused on what boot to target next! What are your thoughts on Valway vs Galway so far?
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