I'm referring to ironist's burgundy MTOs that aren't longwings. These are longwings:
These are not: Pardon the non-Vass content. The Vass boots posted by Greg earlier in the thread are longwings.
In the original post, there are some derby brogues and some longwings, both derbies in shell on the shit-kicking 3636 I believe. Would be easy to miss one of them when skimming the thread. I had to go back and look for the wingtips I'd missed when reading the first time, perhaps Roger did the opposite.
Mimo, as usual, is right. The first few pics that ironist quoted are shortwings - hence my confusion. The longwings show up as one continues to scroll - which I don't always do when viewing on my phone.
No surprise there: the F last has a much more extended toe. Look where the widest point of each shoe is in relation to the heel i.e. the "heel to ball" which is the best single measure of fit. You even have a hint from the crease over the ball of the foot in each case, that the distance is a shade longer on the Budapester.
And it is handsome indeed. I feel a kopping coming on. But if you don't want that 43 Budapester, I'll tell you where to send it. :)
Don't know, Budapester is supposed to be short and stubby, F is a pretty long last and fit is on the slimmer side.