dlind
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sounds reasonable, will have to look into that!If I remember correctly the belts were 80 or 90 Euros when I was in their shop last summer
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sounds reasonable, will have to look into that!If I remember correctly the belts were 80 or 90 Euros when I was in their shop last summer
This would be a good idea, a the U Last is a great last, and rounded toe version of it would fill in the gap imo between the U and F last. The k last seems redundant, like a too pointy u last. Their boot options could benefit from a chelsea model, as well as a jodhpur. And lastly, though not that big a deal, the edge dressing could be varied a bit. They seem use edge dressing that makes the sole one solid color be it black, or brown, and some styles would look better imo with the edge dressing that allows you to still the variation from one layer to next on the heels. I hope I explained that last part correctly. Actually is this something that they offer because I have not seen a pair that wasn't how I described with the solid color edge dressing. It makes all the shoes look very conservative, and at times boring.The changes that Vass is currently looking to make would be in last and model design. At the moment they have several lasts, bout 3 of them being very popular for international buyers (U, F and PS, but also 3636 they told me). However, there is a huge difference between the U last and the rest, and they were thinking of designing a last somewhere in the middle of the U and F, somewhere between JL 7000 and 8000 last (although I have no personal experience with these two, but looking at pictures I hope you can understand what I’m trying to say).
Not quite....one example: it seems "Mr. Vass don't like to make slipper with cordovan but they will make"...no extra charge.
Vass is fine where they are. They just need better sales operations as suggested by proxies that monetize Vass' direct sales inefficiencies.
They don't need more lasts. They don't need more styles. Pointless to convert or a top notch hand crafting company into a much lesser RTW operation like EG or G&G. Vass needs to stay Vass and not another EG offspring like G&G or a G&G offspring like AS Handgrade.
I think I’m able to answer on most that has been said here, or at least I’ll give it a try.
The changes that Vass is currently looking to make would be in last and model design. At the moment they have several lasts, bout 3 of them being very popular for international buyers (U, F and PS, but also 3636 they told me). However, there is a huge difference between the U last and the rest, and they were thinking of designing a last somewhere in the middle of the U and F, somewhere between JL 7000 and 8000 last (although I have no personal experience with these two, but looking at pictures I hope you can understand what I’m trying to say).
They need a C last to sit between their F, U, K last.
That being said, F and U last are successful not because of StyFo but because its under Uglioli name and exports to Japan. So now, are they planning to design a last on their own that imitates the French/Italian shapes or are they going to go the Uglioli route again to at least guarantee some orders from Japan?
Pattern wise, Vass is fine where they are. Operationally, Vass is fine where they are at the OEM/volume and retail market. On e-commerce side, they have much to work on in refining the shopping experience that is currently perfected by proxies. It would be a tragedy and mistake to have price gougers involved.
EDIT: removed the names to avoid drone attacks.
I spoke to Razor, and suggest they call their new last: "U2"A last between the U and F is definitely needed. The U is one of the most problematic chiseled-toe lasts in terms of fit (high instep, tight toe box), while the F seems to be quite the opposite in terms of fit and toe style.
Is it possible for Vass to show some preliminary pictures of how this new U-F last hybrid will look like?
I have been told its a blended version of the R and P2 last....P3 is apparently made to fit someone who likes the 3636 but wants a longer (and slightly narrower) toe, as on the P2.
What is up with all the sudden hate against Leffot and Epaulet? I have had some not stellar interactions with Leffot, but Mike and Epaulet have always been fantastic and very customer-service oriented.
The good thing about Vass is that they are totally flexible with make-ups. You can send them a bunch of pictures and they will make the design to the best of their abilities. And they don't charge MTO surcharge. We don't need a costly retailer with a singleminded focus on profit margins to come into the picture and screw it up for us. You just pick up the phone and telephone Razor and run your make-up by him. He will tell you if they can or can't do it. If it's weird or will look awful he'll tell you that as well. In short, who needs Le-who and epaulet when we've got Razor.
(PS. Ive been following the Carmina prices on the epaulet thread and they are just outrageous....but good for them.)
Agree.
Whether Carmina's prices are fair for the product is beyond my judgement, except to say that I own their shoes and boots.
Think I was oringally quoted €95 over the phone.
Then they reduced down to €50 - as I order 2 pairs of MTO ;-)
Time to Market & Communication is key for Vass - then again Cleverleys and EG
can take upto 6-8 months to make a bloody pair of MTO.
+1
Totally agree - I just ordered 2 pairs of MTO direct from them.
After a few emails to clarify my size, colour; style and sole requirement Razor
was ready to accept my order. What also helped was my experience with Lobbs
and EG shoes. I told him my size and last on those makes, an this bought the
margin of error down to possibly 5%.
His name is Rezso Kuti and he is the sales manager of the shop. I am located in the states and was charged 45$ to ship one pair of shoes.Who's Razor and what's his contact information? And was the €95 shipping for one pair of shoes?