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post #11236 of 20221

on point there mr. P   I particularly enjoy St. C's leather & finishing choices more so than what I've seen from my single vass.

 

until an austerity wing boot, Crispin's provided the best arch support I've experienced in years. the Vass boot was every bit as good in that respect.

 

while the vass leathers are very good, the coloring is bland out of the box but lends itself to a personal touch if you're inclined.

 

another Vass boot & a quasi Adelaide on the way which may help with an expanded opinion

post #11237 of 20221
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I have but one pair of St. Crispin's and many pairs of Vass.  I will say that my St. C. pair impress as a step up in pretty much every respect.  But they are better than twice the price - do they impress as being twice as good?  Nope.  There is something of a diminishing return as one ascends the RTW hierarchy.  Greater sums are expended for smaller, more incremental increases in quality.  Value is ultimately a subjective determination in any event.

One more point of distinction that is no small matter: with ST. C you can get small adjustments to several areas of their existing lasts in order to fine tune fit in a manner than splits the difference between a good RTW fit and bespoke.  In fact, I'd say that being fit by Philip Car in person and having last adjustments made based in his in-person and hands-on assessment likely results in a better fit than 'bespoke' shoes where you make the varied measurements yourself and send them in to the maker.


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Thanks a million Roger! This is very helpful. The Last adjustment is indeed very very attractive. It's almost like getting a bespoke (if not better, as long as it's fitted properly.) Question though - is that already included in their price, or is it an extra charge on top?

I used to be able to do this adjustment w/ GG deco when they first came out (for my high instep and was fitted by Tony at the time) w/ no extra charge. However with the recent price increase and new policies they just wouldn't do it anymore, and I feel like there are better alternatives out there.
post #11238 of 20221
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Thanks a million Roger! This is very helpful. The Last adjustment is indeed very very attractive. It's almost like getting a bespoke (if not better, as long as it's fitted properly.) Question though - is that already included in their price, or is it an extra charge on top?

I used to be able to do this adjustment w/ GG deco when they first came out (for my high instep and was fitted by Tony at the time) w/ no extra charge. However with the recent price increase and new policies they just wouldn't do it anymore, and I feel like there are better alternatives out there.

 

I believe there is a small charge for last adjustments, but it is more that worth it.  I can't say the actual cost, because when I got my shoes from LeatherFoot, I had last adjustments, metal toe taps and sole initials added for a VERY small premium that I expect was effectively a goodwill gesture on the part of the store for a repeat customer.

 

In any event, the St. C's are definitely the fit champs in my rotation.

post #11239 of 20221



post #11240 of 20221
What polish does everyone use for the red coganc calf? I have not been able to find a polish that matches.
post #11241 of 20221
Also Vass offers last adjustments at a €100 upcharge but then including the three piece tree in the price. They call this service "be-spoke".
post #11242 of 20221
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Also Vass offers last adjustments at a €100 upcharge but then including the three piece tree in the price. They call this service "be-spoke".
But don't they require you to go there in person?
post #11243 of 20221
I believe yes. A bit of a hassle if you live in US or Canada of course
post #11244 of 20221
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Also Vass offers last adjustments at a €100 upcharge but then including the three piece tree in the price. They call this service "be-spoke".

Is that 100 on top of the MTO price i.e. 620?

post #11245 of 20221
That's a decent price. I regret not thinking of it :/
post #11246 of 20221
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Is that 100 on top of the MTO price i.e. 620?
Yes, it's €620 but then including the €60 tree.
post #11247 of 20221
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Thanks guys. What sizes do you wear in both St C and Vass?

SC = 9.5 

 

Vass = 44 on U,K and F last. 

I can get away with F last on 43.5 in a open lace Derby shoe. 

post #11248 of 20221
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What polish does everyone use for the red coganc calf? I have not been able to find a polish that matches.

 

I mostly use a neutral wax, but I did pick up a jar of Saphir Mahogany that seems a pretty close colour match.

post #11249 of 20221
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SC = 9.5 

Vass = 44 on U,K and F last. 
I can get away with F last on 43.5 in a open lace Derby shoe. 

similar for me. what size are you in Edward Green?
post #11250 of 20221
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@Cal135

any updates on the cream vcap bal boot?

These? Here are some fresh pics. Color is still a bit lighter than I would like it to be, but I will let them be as they are for now (and continue to polish them with dark cream after every use). The problem is, when you have so many Vass shoes on rotation, the time per pair is limited smile.gif hence the darkening process will take longer. I am sure after some years of wear they will have a very nice patina.



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