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post #11221 of 20542
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Originally Posted by Son Of Saphir View Post

what color Vass do in JL mottle antique?
any picture of all mottle color by vass?
Vass do ltalian finish now?

Vass has always been doing the Italian Finish - just very tedious and takes hours to get the military high shine! 

 

Not sure what all the fuss is about with the Museum calf from IIcea and Co...the quality of the Vass French calf 

is far superior. 

 

The colours are mainly Tan Cognac, Plum; Dark Brown - but all this may change due to the inconsistencies with 

the Italian suppliers going bust.  Vass should just keep to their solid French Calf. 

post #11222 of 20542
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ post updated pics of your shell k last bal boots!

I have only worn these boots twice!!! - and they're safely locked up until the winter and my gout problem disappears. 

post #11223 of 20542
Museum colors have been available, but from different suppliers, ie, bonaudo, hass, etc. llcea may be back this year but in the meantime it's unpredictable. I'm waiting for a pair of dark brown museum right now, who produced the leather is anyone's guess at this point.
post #11224 of 20542
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I'd be happy with any one of those, but none are mine - I just saw a bunch of new (to me anyway) images posted on the Ascot Facebook page and thought I'd share.

Ah ok ... too bad =) but were beautiful, really.

post #11225 of 20542

F last Old English II in oxblood.

 

post #11226 of 20542
F last always a beauty.
post #11227 of 20542
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F last Old English II in oxblood.


*opens "Future purchases.docx"*
*adds Vass, F-last, Oxblood, OEII*
*save*
post #11228 of 20542
Looks good! @mimo
post #11229 of 20542
Let me first say my apologies if this has been discussed before. Does anyone here have experience with Saint Crispin's? Have recently taken an interest in it, and wonder how it compares to Vass in terms of quality, finish (since they're both hand welted), as well as sizing. I'm just looking for general guidelines at this moment. Thanks!
post #11230 of 20542
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Originally Posted by agedashidofu View Post

Let me first say my apologies if this has been discussed before. Does anyone here have experience with Saint Crispin's? Have recently taken an interest in it, and wonder how it compares to Vass in terms of quality, finish (since they're both hand welted), as well as sizing. I'm just looking for general guidelines at this moment. Thanks

Obviously finishing is subjective but StC has a more pronounced and narrower fiddle waist that is tree pegged and the shoes are more antiqued/burnished. StC's are also hand welted but the outsole is stitched to the welt by machine where as this is hand stitched on Vass shoes. Leather quality is not necessarily higher at StC but given the quite substantial price difference I think it's fair to say they probably cut fewer pairs of shoes from every hide. Generally speaking I think Vass represents the best value for money in the world atm but StC's are sold a different price point and because of this have slightly better finishing (IMO), and as a final, slightly irrelevant, point , their shoe trees are to die for.

post #11231 of 20542
Vass is one of the best values shoes if not the best.

SC is the best amongst all available RTW makers in US with their last customization and MTO detailing.
post #11232 of 20542
Thanks guys. What sizes do you wear in both St C and Vass?
post #11233 of 20542
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Thanks guys. What sizes do you wear in both St C and Vass?

Attend one of the trunk shoes and get fitted by Philip Car. Any size translation is futile.
post #11234 of 20542
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Attend one of the trunk shoes and get fitted by Philip Car. Any size translation is futile.

+1

post #11235 of 20542
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Originally Posted by agedashidofu View Post

Let me first say my apologies if this has been discussed before. Does anyone here have experience with Saint Crispin's? Have recently taken an interest in it, and wonder how it compares to Vass in terms of quality, finish (since they're both hand welted), as well as sizing. I'm just looking for general guidelines at this moment. Thanks!

 

I have but one pair of St. Crispin's and many pairs of Vass.  I will say that my St. C. pair impress as a step up in pretty much every respect.  But they are better than twice the price - do they impress as being twice as good?  Nope.  There is something of a diminishing return as one ascends the RTW hierarchy.  Greater sums are expended for smaller, more incremental increases in quality.  Value is ultimately a subjective determination in any event.

 

One more point of distinction that is no small matter: with ST. C you can get small adjustments to several areas of their existing lasts in order to fine tune fit in a manner than splits the difference between a good RTW fit and bespoke.  In fact, I'd say that being fit by Philip Car in person and having last adjustments made based in his in-person and hands-on assessment likely results in a better fit than 'bespoke' shoes where you make the varied measurements yourself and send them in to the maker.

 

 

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