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post #7336 of 13492
my "lasted" trees dont fit my f lasted norwegers. notice the creases on the left pair (with lasted vass tree). also not the reflection of the light. right shoe has no creases and the toe isnt as bulbous. annoying as it appears the Jos A Banks looks/feels like a better fit



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post #7337 of 13492
my lasted trees have a very low instep, appear to be from k or u last


post #7338 of 13492
Namor-

What size did you go with for your Norweger's?
post #7339 of 13492
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my lasted trees have a very low instep, appear to be from k or u last

 

 

If they're only having one set of trees, then I guess it makes sense as trees based on another last might not fit inside a U-last oxford.  But there's not much sense calling them "lasted trees" if they're from a different last to your shoes!

post #7340 of 13492
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

my "lasted" trees dont fit my f lasted norwegers. notice the creases on the left pair (with lasted vass tree). also not the reflection of the light. right shoe has no creases and the toe isnt as bulbous. annoying as it appears the Jos A Banks looks/feels like a better fit



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I have the same experience. The lasted trees doesn't fill the shoes.
post #7341 of 13492
I recommend you use the lasted trees. Shoe trees are not meant to apply pressure on the upper like that one on the right does. It will stretch it out of shape. It's a bit of a misconception around here that a shoe tree should make contact with every square centimeter of the shoe. Pressure at the right points to keep the shoe straight and help it dry correctly, while at the same no pressure on the softer part of the upper so as not to deform it = well fitting tree in my book.
post #7342 of 13492
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I recommend you use the lasted trees. Shoe trees are not meant to apply pressure on the upper like that one on the right does. It will stretch it out of shape. It's a bit of a misconception around here that a shoe tree should make contact with every square centimeter of the shoe. Pressure at the right points to keep the shoe straight and help it dry correctly, while at the same no pressure on the softer part of the upper so as not to deform it = well fitting tree in my book.

^^ that
post #7343 of 13492
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

I recommend you use the lasted trees. Shoe trees are not meant to apply pressure on the upper like that one on the right does. It will stretch it out of shape. It's a bit of a misconception around here that a shoe tree should make contact with every square centimeter of the shoe. Pressure at the right points to keep the shoe straight and help it dry correctly, while at the same no pressure on the softer part of the upper so as not to deform it = well fitting tree in my book.

i'm sorry, but lasted trees should fill the shoe and make contact with good tension but without stretching.
post #7344 of 13492
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Namor-

What size did you go with for your Norweger's?

i believe a 45.5, however trees are 45. i wear am a us 12, uk11.5 in EG and GG
post #7345 of 13492
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Originally Posted by gdl203 View Post

I recommend you use the lasted trees. Shoe trees are not meant to apply pressure on the upper like that one on the right does. It will stretch it out of shape. It's a bit of a misconception around here that a shoe tree should make contact with every square centimeter of the shoe. Pressure at the right points to keep the shoe straight and help it dry correctly, while at the same no pressure on the softer part of the upper so as not to deform it = well fitting tree in my book.

i keep the norwegers in the lasted trees but the trees provided were not made for the last. too much empty space, its not even close. if/when this shoe begins to crease across the vamp, the trees will do little to correct the horizontal lines
post #7346 of 13492
AFAIK lasted bespoke trees (G&G and JLP IME) fills every surface of the corresponding shoes without stretching them.

Vass trees doesn't fill the space well and neither does saint crispins trees despite both claimed to be lasted.
post #7347 of 13492
^ add EG trees to the "lasted and fits appropriate last" list
post #7348 of 13492
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

^ add EG trees to the "lasted and fits appropriate last" list

New EG trees are a joke nowhere even close
post #7349 of 13492
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Originally Posted by NAMOR View Post

i believe a 45.5, however trees are 45. i wear am a us 12, uk11.5 in EG and GG

Thanks. I have ordered a pair of Osloers and Rezso recommended a 45.5...feel much better now as I am the same size as you...
post #7350 of 13492
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i believe a 45.5, however trees are 45. i wear am a us 12, uk11.5 in EG and GG


I'm really surprised about that, 45.5 is really big in the F for a size US12. I'm not saying they don't fit you of course, it shows how much fit varies according to the type of feet.
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