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Brown cordovan, U-last. I have 15 pairs of shoes/boots made by Vass. Three pairs in cordovan. I would recommend calf or grain instead of cordovan.

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Nothing wrong in cordovan as such. Good and strong leather, relatively easy to maintain, but for me it has become boring. I prefer the patina that you can get from good calf (assuming you take good care of your shoes), cordovan just doesn't age as nicely. Cordovan could be ok for a hard wearing boots, but even for those my pick would be grain.
 

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Many say the F last looks plump in pictures but is sleek in person.

It may have to do with the high instep, which is partially hidden when trousers are worn.

My 41.5 F last Italian oxfords above. For the small size, they are really quite pointy, almost like the G&G Deco last.
 

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alloy13 - I think the perception of the plumpness of the F-last is more in comparative (with, say, K and U lasts) than absolute terms. I have a pair of black F-last punch caps. Love the shoes. They are far from blobby, but I'd have a hard time calling them "sleek" - particularly if they are sitting on the rack next to my K-last monks.

Nice wholecuts, by the way.
 
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Nothing wrong in cordovan as such. Good and strong leather, relatively easy to maintain, but for me it has become boring. I prefer the patina that you can get from good calf (assuming you take good care of your shoes), cordovan just doesn't age as nicely. Cordovan could be ok for a hard wearing boots, but even for those my pick would be grain.

I'll have to completely disagree with that - even allowing for differences in subjective perception. Shell cordovan has always represented a small minority in my shoe rotation as comared with calf, but ages just as nicely in my opinion, assuming both are equally well cared for. Franky, I find much of this rhapsodizing about the "patina" of calf shoes rather overblown.
 

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Brown cordovan, U-last. I have 15 pairs of shoes/boots made by Vass. Three pairs in cordovan. I would recommend calf or grain instead of cordovan.

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Thanks for posting..
 

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Got my suede F-last austerity brogues inspired by rikod (post 6465) , but m ine are on the dainite. I've sent Rezso my measurement to modify the last for my high instep, and the fit is really perfect.
nephew, good looking suede wt, wear in good health
 

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Nothing wrong in cordovan as such. Good and strong leather, relatively easy to maintain, but for me it has become boring. I prefer the patina that you can get from good calf (assuming you take good care of your shoes), cordovan just doesn't age as nicely. Cordovan could be ok for a hard wearing boots, but even for those my pick would be grain.


good people can agree to disagree. the patina on #8 is the best
 

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Brown cordovan, U-last. I have 15 pairs of shoes/boots made by Vass. Three pairs in cordovan. I would recommend calf or grain instead of cordovan.

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Its hard to say but to me it looks like the fit of those doesnt seem to work for you. I mean I only have a few pairs of cordovan but my creasing is not as bad as yours are. I think my cordovans have aged wonderfully and its been a short time since I have had them and I love them.
 

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Its hard to say but to me it looks like the fit of those doesnt seem to work for you. I mean I only have a few pairs of cordovan but my creasing is not as bad as yours are. I think my cordovans have aged wonderfully and its been a short time since I have had them and I love them.
I was thinking the same regarding fit - none of my cordovan shoes reflect anywhere near that level of creasing - almost looks like the shoes are a full size too big.
 

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I was thinking the same regarding fit - none of my cordovan shoes reflect anywhere near that level of creasing - almost looks like the shoes are a full size too big.


I had some creasing with my pair (although not as close to the tip as the pair being discussed) and I'm wondering maybe part of it is Vass' toe puff/stiffener does not go as far up as other shoes. Just thinking out loud as I do not know if this would make a difference. I also wonder if wingtip designs tend to do this more.
 

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Nice looking, although I'm not sure that I associate suede with Dainite. I'm thinking of getting that model in either black or oxblood calf in the P2. There is a wide F, but Reszo says that it is essentially a P2 with just a little difference in the toe shape. I could experiment on this, but P2 looks its sleekest with a wing-tip, if you don't count the Norweger.
Got my suede F-last austerity brogues inspired by rikod, but mine are on the dainite. I've sent Rezso my measurement to modify the last for my high instep, and the fit is really perfect.
 
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Its hard to say but to me it looks like the fit of those doesnt seem to work for you. I mean I only have a few pairs of cordovan but my creasing is not as bad as yours are. I think my cordovans have aged wonderfully and its been a short time since I have had them and I love them.


How do you know how well they age if you only have them for a short time?

And regarding creases, it might or might not be a fit "problem" as all RTW shoes will have fit problems one way or the other. And sometimes even bespoke shoes will have fit problems...
 

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