Yeah that's why I did to be honest - I'm a 32 waist in LVC, and I bought 32x36, soaked them whilst wearing them, and they shrank to 32x34. I think all this 'size up' stuff is a bit hit and miss.
They measured 16" before wash and they measured 16" after; 16" is a little tight though - 16.5" is better for me; I bought the 32 because I read they should stretch at least an inch in the waist - just wondering how long that normally takes. I mean I can wear them, but they'd be more comfrtoable with a bit room.
the 33" waist regular Levi's 501 STF selvedge ("Long Day" color on their site) measured about 35" when i got them. when they shrunk, they were then actually 33". which was too big.
do LVC actually measure what they say, so if i buy a 32" it will be 32" when it arrives?