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post #31 of 150
8/19/09 at 1:10am
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Originally Posted by haganah View Post
It's not like his other work. I liked a lot of his other work and I didn't love this at all. I personally heard him speak to this and I'm not so convinced. He wanted to make a "fairy tale" and the movie starts out with a "once upon a time" but it's not really a holocaust movie. The very first scene (the only one that could be mistaken for a holocaust depiction) of the movie does not jibe with anything else and creates a lot of issues in the film. And if you really want to try and find the protagonist in this movie, it's really a Nazi, not any of the Americans or the moronic French actress. Also Tarantino claims that his point is to make you happy and excited with a different ending to the holocaust (even though the film is about WWII and Jews play a secondary role) but then later when someone tells him that they didn't really feel happy and excited, Tarantino says his goal was to fuck with you. All in all, it's not smooth, it's choppy. The entire first scene could have been cut out as could much of the bar scene. The movie ends up being way too long to appreciate. The french actress is really stupid...amazingly stupid actually. I eye fucked diane kreuger before realizing who she was and then i became a 13 year old acne faced boy. She is a fantastic actress and actually has depth.
I thought it was pretty on-par with his work...eccentric, clashes instead of flows, violent. My only complaint was that there was too much dialog... not as bad as Grindhouse, but still. But honestly I found it to be pretty good.
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post #32 of 150
8/19/09 at 11:52am
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Originally Posted by ZackyBoy View Post
I thought it was pretty on-par with his work...eccentric, clashes instead of flows, violent. My only complaint was that there was too much dialog... not as bad as Grindhouse, but still. But honestly I found it to be pretty good.
Tarantino said he struggled over keeping the scenes with the dialogue and ultimately thought it was best to keep it in because it was much more revealing for the characters or something to that effect. I can see that for the Nazi - he really did an incredible job - but not so much for the others. Have I said yet how much I can't stand the French actress? I'd like to say it again.
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post #33 of 150
8/21/09 at 8:26am
Just got home from watching it. Liked it immensely, but then again I am a fan of Tarantino done "right". Kill Bill was meh. Grindhouse was meh. Basterds is not. [serious spoilers]Might actually be his goriest film. It wasn't over the top comic book gore like in KB. It was realistic and pretty damn brutal. When the first scalping happened, half the audience I was sitting in let out a little gasp. And there are quite a few scalpings in the movie. And the end, with Hitler's face being caved in by machine gun fire... wow. Talk about an indelible image. Chrisolph Waltz' SS Col. Hans Landa was brilliant. Nazi's are best when they make your skin crawl, and dude had it down. I couldn't do anything but admire his character's brilliance and aptitude, while being in sick awe of his eagerness and zeal in "hunting jews". It really was one of those moments where you almost begin to like him, cause he seems like a decent fellow, and then you realize that this is exactly how he's so effective at what he does. The Nazi's didn't go around posturing like monsters, they didn't advertise the fact that they were throwing Jews into cattle cars and marching them into gas chambers. They were merely "relocating" them. They made it all sound like it was pleasant and friendly. I digress, however. Truly a great and effective portrayal, and not in the slightest cartoonish or overdone. Speaking of cartoons, Brad Pitt's Lt. Aldo Raine is nothing but. Which I found interesting. Only a few meager shreds of what could pass for anything resembling reality are ever hinted at in his character. And only really when he's face to face with the antagonist Nazi's. I can only imagine that this was done on purpose. When he gets his final "mark", the audience let out a cheer, and I was sitting there and wondering if anyone else realized that in his way, he was just as much of a psycho as the people he was killing, if not more so. That only his two dimensional cartoon portrayal and the fact that he was American, I guess... saved him from being held accountable for his own prejudices and being seen as more of an anti-hero than a hero. I guess that, in essence, is just what I was thinking while I was watching it. I dunno. Either way, outstanding flick. I didn't mind Melanie Laurent at all. I especially enjoyed the scene where after the screen burns down, and the Nazi's are crawling over themselves trying to flee the theater, her laughing face is projected into the smoke. Brilliant shot. Also, I really liked the Hugo Stiglitz character and the way they introduced him. [/serious spoilers] Would recommend seeing it. A-
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post #34 of 150
8/21/09 at 9:00am
FWIW I barely noticed the "length" of the film, and the dialogue was, for the most part, great as usual. There was a real tension in a lot of the dialogue scenes absent in Kill Bill. And the payoffs, while sometimes gory (it IS Tarantino, after all), half of which were somewhat unexpected in the way they turned out.

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In the restaurant where Shoshanna meets Goebbels for the first time, and Landa for the second, that whole scene literally had me on edge. When Landa finally walked away, and she gasped as if she'd been holding in all her anger and emotion - that was awesome.

Also, when Landa was interrogating von Hammersmark, put the shoe on her foot, and then leapt out of his chair to choke her with his bare hands... unexpected!
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post #35 of 150
8/21/09 at 9:40pm
If it has movie buff TS's approval that means I must see it. I also read a GQ article about it that says he's been working on the script for almost ten years now.
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post #36 of 150
8/21/09 at 9:43pm
Yeah, thanks for sharing your thoughts, Tokyo Slim. Can't wait!
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post #37 of 150
8/21/09 at 9:46pm
saw it. typical tarantino bullshit IMO. i think he's highly overrated in general and even pulp fiction barely holds up anymore.
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post #38 of 150
8/21/09 at 9:46pm
I was kinda meh about this, but the reviews have got me a bit excited. I'm trying to decide between seeing this, The Hurt Locker, or District 9 tomorrow. edit: ^ I think tarantino is way overrated too, but I still kinda like him. And Pulp Fiction is still pretty brilliant.
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post #39 of 150
8/22/09 at 1:18am
I saw it tonight. Underwhelming. It was enjoyable, with some fantastic scenes and dialogue, but the parts did not gel together well, the pace was slow at times, the action weak, and the characters underdeveloped. At the end, there just wasn't much of an emotional impact.

The first scene (on the dairy farm), Frederick, and Colonel Landa were the highlights for me.
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post #40 of 150
8/22/09 at 1:50am
Saw it last night. I thought it was well made, but it was the first movie I have seen that I dissliked on grounds that I found it immoral. The only sympathetic characters were Germans. Not to say that is not what Tarentino wanted...
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post #41 of 150
8/22/09 at 3:54am
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post
saw it. typical tarantino bullshit IMO. i think he's highly overrated in general and even pulp fiction barely holds up anymore.

I agree to an extent, style over substance. Then again the substance of Tarantino is the style.

Loved the shot of the burning theater and the laughter. Loved the Landa scenes.

I like that the Nazi's were for the most part, quite decent and for once the 'good guys' seemed almost worse than their enemy.
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post #42 of 150
8/22/09 at 5:59am
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Originally Posted by Eccentric View Post
Saw it last night. I thought it was well made, but it was the first movie I have seen that I dissliked on grounds that I found it immoral. The only sympathetic characters were Germans. Not to say that is not what Tarentino wanted...
That's pretty interesting. Of course, IMO the perception of morality is somewhat subjective. But I generally agree with your supposition that Tarantino might not have wanted to make a clear cut case of good vs evil. Reminds me of a Starship Troopers discussion we had here once. Then again, I am a fan of specifically amoralist movies.
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post #43 of 150
8/22/09 at 10:26am
this movie offends my sensibilities. tarantino should be shot on site
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post #44 of 150
8/22/09 at 10:50am
Enjoyed it. Good acting, filming, and the boy can write.

And enjoyed it even more so after the borefest of Kill Bill and Grindhouse. Not Res/Pulp standard, but good entertainment.
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post #45 of 150
8/22/09 at 10:58am
I'm def with TS on this one. I absolutely loved it. The only death scene that really bothered me was Bridgets, I always have trouble watching beautiful women die in film. Don't know why.
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