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post #20191 of 20671
Is there a reason why some of these Spanish reds can be sold with so much age on them for so cheap? I've been drinking a cheap Rioja/Tempranillo/Carinena with 10+ years on for like $15 CDN for a while. I feel like they're holding them for longer before release...?
post #20192 of 20671
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Is there a reason why some of these Spanish reds can be sold with so much age on them for so cheap? I've been drinking a cheap Rioja/Tempranillo/Carinena with 10+ years on for like $15 CDN for a while. I feel like they're holding them for longer before release...?

they are. By law the reservas have to have something like 1 years in barrel+ 2 in bottle before sale. The grand reservas are something like 2+3. and those are just the minimums (some do 5-7 in bottle before sale, which would be 10 years past vintage)

 

spanish wine in general seems to have some great values. Lopez de heredia, CVNE, La Rioja Alta, etc


Edited by venividivicibj - 9/16/16 at 12:11am
post #20193 of 20671
I think it's also the huge supply using modern winemaking without the cachet France and Italy has
post #20194 of 20671
I'm a little late to the party, but What to Drink with What You Eat is also an excellent award winning read. It has some characteristics of a reference book - but they do a great job educating on the wines and regions. They also have about every food pairing imaginable in it. The hardcover makes for a nice coffee table book.

https://www.amazon.com/What-Drink-You-Eat-Definitive/dp/0821257188
post #20195 of 20671
So here's the memory aide to remember aging requirements for Rioja wines.

Crianza = 2 years total, 1 in oak.
Reserva = 3 years total, 1 in oak.
Grand Reserva = 5 years total, 2 in oak.

21 + 31 = 52.
post #20196 of 20671
Nice, Piobaire!
post #20197 of 20671
So, in reading this thread, I learned about The Full Pull - what a fantastic idea. Very cool.
post #20198 of 20671
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So, in reading this thread, I learned about The Full Pull - what a fantastic idea. Very cool.

Addictive. Be careful... haha

post #20199 of 20671
Well, the e-mail I just received about the K Vintners Cattle King was too much to handle, I had to take the plunge. I actually know very little about K Vintners, or the Cattle King, but I have done an exorbitant amount of work lately for a cattle rancher (who enjoys wine) that I had to pick up a couple bottles.
post #20200 of 20671
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Well, the e-mail I just received about the K Vintners Cattle King was too much to handle, I had to take the plunge. I actually know very little about K Vintners, or the Cattle King, but I have done an exorbitant amount of work lately for a cattle rancher (who enjoys wine) that I had to pick up a couple bottles.

Lol, the full pull team does an excellent job selecting great wines for the mailing list. However, you will be broke and homeless with purple teeth if you buy upon every email they send lol. They do a good job of hyping the wines in every single email. That said, you'll probably want to keep some powder dry for the La Rata offering this week. It's a Cayuse side project distributed only to Full Pull members.
post #20201 of 20671
Just be ready to age any La Rata you buy. I popped one of my 12s and the others are going to sleep for a few more years.
post #20202 of 20671
Yeah I have pretty good self control. Fortunately. I probably will pick up a couple bottles of La Rata just for the hell of it.

I can easily see how you can be broke and homeless, FAST.
post #20203 of 20671
Full Pull really kills the $15-25 niche. If you see a $20 Cab Sauv and they're giving out allocations of 40-60? Buy the hell out of it as to my experience these offers have tasted like a $50 bottle. Also thrifty picks with "The Rocks" area seem to be very good.

So I got in from running errands. Came home with two cases of wine all designed for structured tasting and using the Court's testing format for the certified. If you've not seen the change it's really been nicely flow charted and narrows the varietals down to a handful of highly recognizable typicity grapes. Here's the whites: https://www.mastersommeliers.org/sites/default/files/CERT%20Tasting%20Exam%20Grid%20WHITE-Dec2015.pdf
post #20204 of 20671
Thanks for the advice. The $15-25 range is really my sweet spot. I just get so irritated buying bottles that are heavily marked up locally. Especially when the win available at the liquor store is not that different than the wine available at albertsons.
post #20205 of 20671
^ I usually focus on the <25 range as well ( unless the producer is known to me, and then I'll go after higher ones)
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