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post #19936 of 20660
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Originally Posted by Ty_Webb View Post

Hi all,

Not sure if this is the best place for this, but hey ho. Two questions:

1) My little boy was born last year and I would like to get hold of a bottle of something from 2015 that will be good to drink in 2036 for his 21st birthday. I have no idea if 2015 was a good enough year anywhere to have wines that might last this long. Looking not to spend too too much, but can stretch a bit, especially if it significantly improves the chances of the wine being still good. Any thoughts or recommendations much appreciated.

2) Very similar to 1), but shooting for 2023 for drinking. Presumably much easier to achieve and for somewhat less money. That will be my 10 year anniversary, so again not looking to scrimp and save. Thoughts?

Thanks!

My cousin did the same thing... bought a bottle of d'yquem for his daughter

That will definitely last to your baby's 21st birthday and beyond
post #19937 of 20660
@Ty_Webb remember it doesn't matter the quality of the wine unless you store it properly.


About 1/2 way through Somm 2. So far a much superior movie. Way more about wine vs. studying to be a master somm. You can stream it on Netflix.


Edit: Notable bottle last night was a 2005 bottle of Bodegas El Nido "El Nido." 70% Cab Sauv/ 30% Monastrell. Still huge but fruit falling out a bit and getting tobacco, pepper, wood smoke, leather. Really something I wish I had a case of.
post #19938 of 20660

Piob, do you have a cellar? Or does it not get hot enough where you live that you have to worry

post #19939 of 20660
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

@Ty_Webb remember it doesn't matter the quality of the wine unless you store it properly.


About 1/2 way through Somm 2. So far a much superior movie. Way more about wine vs. studying to be a master somm. You can stream it on Netflix.


Edit: Notable bottle last night was a 2005 bottle of Bodegas El Nido "El Nido." 70% Cab Sauv/ 30% Monastrell. Still huge but fruit falling out a bit and getting tobacco, pepper, wood smoke, leather. Really something I wish I had a case of.

I shall watch that over the next couple of days I think. Be good fodder for the train. Thanks!
post #19940 of 20660
So i'm just drinking and trying stuff and i'm really zeroing in on what i like, which are red blends from tuscany--I think I like the soft tannins and balanced acidity but also the fruitiness (idk i might be talking out of my ass, let me know if i'm sort of on the right track here) However, a lot of the time it's super bold and was wondering if there was something to check out that might be similar in flavor profile but maybe lighter than that? Pinot Niors/Cote Du Rhones? (I liked the Willamette Valley and Bourgogne pinos I like, but maybe something smoother?). DId not like Cabernet Francs or Cabernet Sauvignons and then really big fruity stuff like Shiraz is OK but i've only had cheap versions of those.

On the white side, I'm really into Orviettos and then the Gruner Vietleners/Reislings (if i want sweet). I thought Soaves were ok. Do not like Sauvignon Blanc or Pinot Gris or even Chardonnay's really (though I liked the unoaked ones a lot more than the oaked ones). I guess that means i like dryer, more mineraly whites?
post #19941 of 20660
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Piob, do you have a cellar? Or does it not get hot enough where you live that you have to worry

I have two Vinotemp units. One is about a 600 bottle that lives a spare bedroom and looks like this:



And one holds 350 or so bottles and lives in our formal dining area. It looks similar to this:



Ours is dark brown, only the two middle doors are glass, and I have the cooling unit right side mounted so it can go against the wall and the vent faces the adjacent wall so is unseen.


Graphic, Riesling can be bone dry.
post #19942 of 20660
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post


I have two Vinotemp units. One is about a 600 bottle that lives a spare bedroom and looks like this:

And one holds 350 or so bottles and lives in our formal dining area. It looks similar to this:

Have you ever had any problems with them? I was looking to get a Vinotemp/eurocave/etc (albeit smaller), but I've read about lots of long term maintenance/mechanical problems

post #19943 of 20660
I've had the bigger unit for nearly a decade. The only problem I've ever had was the bearings on the condenser fan blew about four years after I got it. To be fair I had it up against the wall which is exactly what you're not supposed to do. I bought a replacement cooling unit and swapped it out myself. The old unit I brought in to work so my licensed HVAC guy could look at it. He's the one that diagnosed the bearings. Part was covered under warranty and the install costed me a case of Bud.

I made sure the new cabinet uses the same cooling unit so I have a spare in the garage I could swap into either cabinet if there's a problem.
post #19944 of 20660
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

I've had the bigger unit for nearly a decade.

Four decades and counting for me.
post #19945 of 20660
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post


Four decades and counting for me.

still the same size since birth? :(

post #19946 of 20660
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

still the same size since birth? frown.gif
You'd think some of you would have caught up by now.
post #19947 of 20660
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Originally Posted by GraphicNovelty View Post

So i'm just drinking and trying stuff and i'm really zeroing in on what i like, which are red blends from tuscany--I think I like the soft tannins and balanced acidity but also the fruitiness (idk i might be talking out of my ass, let me know if i'm sort of on the right track here) However, a lot of the time it's super bold and was wondering if there was something to check out that might be similar in flavor profile but maybe lighter than that? Pinot Niors/Cote Du Rhones? (I liked the Willamette Valley and Bourgogne pinos I like, but maybe something smoother?). DId not like Cabernet Francs or Cabernet Sauvignons and then really big fruity stuff like Shiraz is OK but i've only had cheap versions of those.

On the white side, I'm really into Orviettos and then the Gruner Vietleners/Reislings (if i want sweet). I thought Soaves were ok. Do not like Sauvignon Blanc or Pinot Gris or even Chardonnay's really (though I liked the unoaked ones a lot more than the oaked ones). I guess that means i like dryer, more mineraly whites?

go check out Chambers Street Wines - ask for affordable beaujolais (gamay) and bourgogne 

post #19948 of 20660
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post



A bit sweeter than expected. Vanilla, hint of oak and butter like finish.

I love the RARE sign. Piper is not as good maker as Charles, but generally vintages from major Champagne Brands are disappointing. Ubiquitous vanilla in every sip. Still don't know how they put that vanilla taste in their wines while other wines from the same region completely lack it. I suspect it is all in heavy dosage.
post #19949 of 20660
Apparently Charles and Piper are now back under the same roof. I believe they are now both owned by the same company that owns JM Weston.

On further investigation Charles and Piper were brought under the same management in the '80s under Remy Cointreau.
http://www.remy-cointreau.com/group/remy-cointreau/presentation/

Both companies are now owned by EPI.
http://www.decanter.com/wine-news/piper-heidsieck-and-charles-heidsieck-sale-to-epi-completed-38486/
Edited by poorsod - 5/24/16 at 3:06pm
post #19950 of 20660

Is there a point where barrel aging is just a gimmick? ex - if wine is barreled for 60 months, is there a law of diminishing returns to where the winemaker is just using it to brag on the wine notes rather than actually imparting flavor/depth?

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