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post #19771 of 20671
Some wines this weekend:
Occhipinti SP68 Nero D'Avola/Frappato (forget the vintage): really good and interesting, spicy with some zip. Like the wines from this producer a lot.
2011 Pernot Puligny Montrachet, Foliateres: Very good, if a bit young. A bit more round than I would have expected, got better as it opened up.
1990 Haut Brion: a stunning bottle of this wine. Open from the get go and got better. Made a Bdx fan out of a bunch of Burg drinkers. Love this wine.
1986 Leoville Las Cases: deep color for 30 yrs old, good, but overshadowed by the previous wine.
2004 Clos Rougeard (not sure which bottling): also really good, but again overshadowed by the HB.
2000 Leflaive Batard Montrachet: something off with this. Had a discussion about premox and general risk/reward for white Burg these days. I'm not a buyer because of wines like this.
Fourrier Gevrey Chambertin, didn't catch the year: really enjoyed this and I'm not a red Burg fan. It was late in the evening, so it got a bit lost.....along with my liver.
post #19772 of 20671

well damn.

post #19773 of 20671
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Some wines this weekend:
Occhipinti SP68 Nero D'Avola/Frappato (forget the vintage): really good and interesting, spicy with some zip. Like the wines from this producer a lot.
.

Been wanting to try Frappato.
post #19774 of 20671

Starter red wines for a beer drinker looking to move into wine? Typically drink pale ales and IPA's. Nothing too sweet. Random red wines I've tasted have been too strong (I understand it's an acquired taste).

post #19775 of 20671
a beaujolais or rioja maybe? would be lighter than a typical cabernet/merlot/pinot.
Edited by venividivicibj - 3/1/16 at 8:05am
post #19776 of 20671
Is it just me or has Left Coast wine jumped up again in prices? Stuff I was buying for $45 is now going for $75 and I refuse to pay that.
post #19777 of 20671
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Starter red wines for a beer drinker looking to move into wine? Typically drink pale ales and IPA's. Nothing too sweet. Random red wines I've tasted have been too strong (I understand it's an acquired taste).

As noted above, Beaujolais is a good start. Dolcetto, Barbera, and California Pinot Noir also.
post #19778 of 20671
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Starter red wines for a beer drinker looking to move into wine? Typically drink pale ales and IPA's. Nothing too sweet. Random red wines I've tasted have been too strong (I understand it's an acquired taste).

marcel lapierre beaujolais

langhe nebbiolo 

entry level good quality burgundy (bourgogne)

post #19779 of 20671
I don't consider Nebbiolo a good starter - many people find it too tannic (or they think too "dry"). My favorite grape, however.
post #19780 of 20671
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I don't consider Nebbiolo a good starter - many people find it too tannic (or they think too "dry"). My favorite grape, however.

as an IPA drinker -> wine drinker like the OP, that was one of the grapes that "turned" me

post #19781 of 20671

Anyone have any experience with Idlewild? Its all italian grapes, done in Cali (but not fruit bomb/cali style), and all 90+ year old vines

post #19782 of 20671
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as an IPA drinker -> wine drinker like the OP, that was one of the grapes that "turned" me
I get that... but my limited experience in the shop has been the opposite.
post #19783 of 20671
Timely question, did you get an allocation newsletter today? I've had several of the wines: Nebbiolo, Carignane, Barbera, Dolcetto, and the blend. They are solid, well made wines, made in a traditional style, but clearly from CA. I generally like this combination (Palmina and Sandlands are two other wineries I'd put in this same category). I think they're reasonably good values and I've ordered two allocations in the last few weeks. The newsletter came out today for the spring release, which includes several white wines and a rose, in addition to the Nebbiolo. I've not had any of the whites, but ordered a mixed case based on my experience with the other wines. I find most CA wine to be made in an over ripe style that I don't care for, so I try to support these small operations when I'm fortunate enough to try their wines.
post #19784 of 20671
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

Timely question, did you get an allocation newsletter today? I've had several of the wines: Nebbiolo, Carignane, Barbera, Dolcetto, and the blend. They are solid, well made wines, made in a traditional style, but clearly from CA. I generally like this combination (Palmina and Sandlands are two other wineries I'd put in this same category). I think they're reasonably good values and I've ordered two allocations in the last few weeks. The newsletter came out today for the spring release, which includes several white wines and a rose, in addition to the Nebbiolo. I've not had any of the whites, but ordered a mixed case based on my experience with the other wines. I find most CA wine to be made in an over ripe style that I don't care for, so I try to support these small operations when I'm fortunate enough to try their wines.

yeah, got the allocation today - just worried it might be too Cali-ripe for me

 

also signed up for Sandlands which should come out in a month or so

post #19785 of 20671
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Anyone have any experience with Idlewild? Its all italian grapes, done in Cali (but not fruit bomb/cali style), and all 90+ year old vines

90 year old vines in Italian varietals is dubious at best...
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