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post #17011 of 17672
Drinking some Ser Lapo Chianti Classico 2009. Not bad. Probably too young.

Potentially stupid question alert: so what, exactly, is the deal with Chianti? I know its image suffered tremendously because of those funny straw-covered flagon thingies; perhaps its name is still associated with fava beans and cannibalism. But I guess I just kind of think of them as decent, serviceable wines with a good bit of acidity. Is that about right? Or still unjustly maligned?
post #17012 of 17672
Been drinking a vertical of Sottimano Cottá this weekend. 01-04-07. Beautiful.
post #17013 of 17672
For makers who care, Chianti can be beautiful, approachable. I love Sangiovese in General and good chianti :swoon:

I've probably gone through two cases of the Fontaleoni Colli Senesi this year.
post #17014 of 17672
I like Chianti too. Antinori's Chianti Classico is highly enjoyable, for example, though there's obviously less expensive good Chianti.
post #17015 of 17672
I've been raving about that $7 a bottle case of Folonari for a year now. I like Sangiovese in general too. I think Chianti suffers from two things. First, there has been a crap ton of plonk in those wicker cased bottles. Second, and this includes me, Old World wines still suffer lack of understanding among the majority of New World wine drinkers due to Europe being about place whereas all of the New World is about type of grape.

I'm going to leave this here and looking forward to see what people like Slew have to say: http://punchdrink.com/articles/the-rise-of-the-american-somm/
post #17016 of 17672
Will keep my eye out for the Folonari. Wife is increasingly unenthused by my wine budget, so I'm on the lookout for budget weekday drinkers.
post #17017 of 17672
+1, except substitute "girlfriend and own conscience" for "wife"
post #17018 of 17672
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Originally Posted by erictheobscure View Post

Drinking some Ser Lapo Chianti Classico 2009. Not bad. Probably too young.

Potentially stupid question alert: so what, exactly, is the deal with Chianti? I know its image suffered tremendously because of those funny straw-covered flagon thingies; perhaps its name is still associated with fava beans and cannibalism. But I guess I just kind of think of them as decent, serviceable wines with a good bit of acidity. Is that about right? Or still unjustly maligned?

I'm a big Chianti fan. There are many very good bottlings that are criminally undervalued, firstly because people are used to straw bottle Chianti, and secondly, the name just doesn't carry much prestige alongside the other great Italian wines. But there's lots of great wines out there, and lots of great values from the bottom up. The best are structured and somewhat sinewy, and tend to have lots of acid and aggressive tannins- definitely not a mass appeal style. But they're great food wines and can get very interesting with some age.

Think of it this way- when people talk about Bordeaux, for the most part they're used to talking about all of the classed growths, garagistes and other sought after wines, forgetting that those are a drop in the bucket, and there's hundreds and hundreds of other producers, the majority of them making very cheap wine. I see Chianti as the opposite, I get the impression that most people think of Chianti as being bottle after bottle of cheap quaffing wine, and just can't believe that there's anything beyond that. I run into it all the time at work. Selling bottles of Brunello for $160 is easy, and that's just about where Brunello starts on our list. But offer someone a bottle of Felsina's Rancia over that, which is 155 on our list, and it's just not happening. And naturally, any 50 or 60 dollar Chianti we ever get, just sells and sells.
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a bottle of Felsina's Rancia over that, which is 155 on our list, and it's just not happening.

Restaurant? You're selling Felsina Berardanga Rancia for 4-5x's average retail?
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Restaurant? You're selling Felsina Berardanga Rancia for 4-5x's average retail?

Welcome to Ontario, land of obscene government markups... Our cost on that bottle was just over $60.
I just checked how much that wine costs in the states... Oh man. Less than we pay for Felsina Chianti Classico...
post #17021 of 17672

1998 Spice route Flagship Merlot, Malmsbury. (S.A.)

post #17022 of 17672
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Originally Posted by chrisbunnington View Post

Welcome to Ontario, land of obscene government markups... Our cost on that bottle was just over $60.
I just checked how much that wine costs in the states... Oh man. Less than we pay for Felsina Chianti Classico...

Oh Canada.
post #17023 of 17672
back when I was a youth and played competitive ice hockey, we'd take a number of trip to Canada for tournaments, and I always thought the anthem was "we stand on God for thee"



also, the '03 Dom Rose is a little underwhelming right now.
post #17024 of 17672
Drinking a '08 Chateau Cerestin La Lande (Médoc) right now. I like it, but I think it's got a tiny tiny hint of cork.
post #17025 of 17672
Wait charlie birds wines are all available by the half bottle? So much good stuff in such a small menu and only at 200% markup and served in zalto glasses too (shoulda pushed for lobmeyr smile.gif) . Need to make my way over there

I was looking at mareas wine list and they're selling soldera bdm by the glass lol. I might have to spring for that. It's like 1/5 the price of a retail bottle

Also I don't know if it's just me but all the wine lists I'm looking at are chock full of Corsica, Jura, Sicily and savoie. There's always even a few Corsican reds which IMO aren't that great (But I haven't had the reserve level wines. It's a little hard to drop that much when there's a ton of things I've wanted to try at that price point)
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