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For cheap burgs stick with a good producer. Gome has taught me this.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

For cheap burgs stick with a good producer. Gome has taught me this.

Definitely. Find a producer you like and go down their range until you can afford it. Buying random $30 Burgs is *definitely* a recipe for disappointment. If that's what Gome was saying, then I agree.

But that applies to any grape, really. Find the good producers and buy their entry level wines if you want reliable value.
post #15168 of 17672
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Well yes, but it they don't need 30 years.
right. I've just found that the benefits from a little age are very apparent and most excellent.
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It just pains me because I know I have neither the wallet nor the patience to enjoy the good stuff.
I have neither the wallet nor the patience either. A little knowledge can make the strike rate of success very high.
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Entry level Burgs definitely have a place in my cellar (well, closet really... That's another problem) and I do enjoy them--but they are very clearly not the pinnacle of their grape. I do think that you can get better, more elegant wines in the $30 range than many Burgs. But, sometimes you just want a Burg, and there's nothing wrong with that.
a whole lot of $30-50 wines are very clearly not the pinnacle of their grape.
post #15169 of 17672
Maybe I am just strange, but it frequently amazes me that such deliciousness comes from grapes.
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Originally Posted by aravenel View Post

Definitely. Find a producer you like and go down their range until you can afford it. Buying random $30 Burgs is *definitely* a recipe for disappointment. If that's what Gome was saying, then I agree.

But that applies to any grape, really. Find the good producers and buy their entry level wines if you want reliable value.

the big difference is people will have a Burg from a solid producer, and then all too often it's "hey! I can get this Gevrey-Chambertin for the same price!!" and that's a no-no.

When I first started to really get into burgs, it was the hardest thing to break. "$48 for just a 'cote de nuits'? Meh, pass."
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Maybe I am just strange, but it frequently amazes me that such deliciousness comes from grapes.

and happiness.
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

I have neither the wallet nor the patience either. A little knowledge can make the strike rate of success very high.

Completely agree!
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

a whole lot of $30-50 wines are very clearly not the pinnacle of their grape.

True... My point was more that IMO, $30 gets you a better bottle of wine in, say, Cru B, than in Burg. It's not a Burg, and sometimes you want a Burg, but in general, I would not classify Burg as a value wine. Granted I am not a Burg expert, so I'm sure someone could easily find exceptions to this--in which case I urge you to share them with me biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

the big difference is people will have a Burg from a solid producer, and then all too often it's "hey! I can get this Gevrey-Chambertin for the same price!!" and that's a no-no.

When I first started to really get into burgs, it was the hardest thing to break. "$48 for just a 'cote de nuits'? Meh, pass."

Definitely agree 100% with this!
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I'm too poor and not patient enough for burgundy. I have come to terms.
This is the one wine region that I have never been excited about. Heresy around here I know, but it is what it is. I do occasionally like to drink white Burgs however.
post #15175 of 17672
One thing (among many) in Burg's favor is that I like them on the young side, whereas with Bordeaux and cab I really want serious age on them.
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Quick, change topics before idfnl gets wind of this.
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One thing (among many) in Burg's favor is that I like them on the young side, whereas with Bordeaux and cab I really want serious age on them.

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Quick, change topics before idfnl gets wind of this.



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Thread Starter 
Just had this with medium rare ribeye.

OMFG! Epic!

I need a minute. Description later, lads.

post #15179 of 17672
Thread Starter 
Okay, I've composed myself.

Lets forget all this bollocks you're talking about Burg and focus on Super Duper Tuscan for a mo.

Incredible complexity (yes, broad, but you know exactly what I mean).
One of the longest finishes of any wine I've tasted. Long!
Chewy, gorgeous tannins on first taste, with the most silky feel in the mouth -- you know, when you curl your tongue and make a welcome home for the wine for the briefest of time before swallowing. Felt like prime Nicole Kidman in your mouth.
Quality dark fruit, but in perfect harmony with tannins and alcohol.

The only downside? 2009. Like many great wines, could use a little aging. But, fuck it, couldn't wait. Xmas prezzie from girl.

Tomorrow, Pahllmeyer Red. Their Pinot was incredible at the beginning of the summer. This is supposed to be their very best. Report later. Another prezzie from girl.

Have a great weekend, lads.
post #15180 of 17672
Early Iron Chef Japan WINE BATTLE - full episode (not dubbed, captions only)

They pour out a pretty stellar list of burg's, bord's and champs... for cooking. satisfied.gif
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