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and the Oliver Leflaive Bourgogne Blancs is my go-to value Burg

From the Delicious Wines threak ...

Ok so I have come to the conclusion that CdP is my favorite red. So earthy, smells great in the glass, really love it. Not wasting my time with anything else going forward.

FTFY

I'm too poor and not patient enough for burgundy. I have come to terms.

Money doesn't stop me.

Huge +1 to this. Sigh.

I have an uncle-in-law who loves red burgundy and has a huge cellar full of it. Every now and then, when my wife and I are in town, we will drink some of it. It is always an incredible experience.

And then I go and look at what these things cost, and how long most of them need to sit.... And I resign myself to drinking them pretty much only with my in-law, or when on the expense account.

Sigh.

Well it doesn't seem to have to sit very long, but spending a lot of money on water is always a huge kick in the teeth, (and the wallet).

I feel like this topic comes up every few months on the wine threak. There are those who compare Burg to a minefield and a waste of money. And then there are others (me, matt, slew, manton) who love Burgundy and have had great luck. Ok, maybe it's not luck at all.



$20 for a Drouhin Cote de Beaune or $30 for a Bachelet Bourgogne Rouge strike me as great value plays.

Well, plenty of people could say that spending a lot of money on sheep's hair is a kick in the teeth too, but... This is SF!

IMO, some age can really benefit a solid Burg. I bought a 2002 Bachelet Bourgogne at Crush a few weeks ago and it was a killer wine that really benefited from the time.

I will third Mongeard Cdn fourth Domaine Pierre Guillemot, and fifth Philippe Pacalet Pomard

Well yes, but it they don't need 30 years.

This is fair. Don't get me wrong--I *love* Red Burgundy. It is my platonic ideal of a red wine. It really is.

It just pains me because I know I have neither the wallet nor the patience to enjoy the good stuff.

Entry level Burgs definitely have a place in my cellar (well, closet really... That's another problem) and I do enjoy them--but they are very clearly not the pinnacle of their grape. I do think that you can get better, more elegant wines in the $30 range than many Burgs. But, sometimes you just want a Burg, and there's nothing wrong with that.

I don't think finding good Burg is luck, except for the inevitable roulette you play with old bottles, but that's got nothing to do with Burg, all old wines have that risk. Just like any other wine, once you get an idea of the sub-regions, importers, producers, etc, it becomes pretty simple to find wine that will at least not be flawed. Might not be really what you wanted, but it won't likely be *bad*. Affording it is another problem.