The Official Wine Thread - Page 999

Really, I think Z's is much better than Astor. The problem with Z's is the all over the map pricing, but if you watch out for sales and specials you can do well.

That Herman Wiemer is a pretty good bottle for what it is. Was not expecting much first time I had it, and was quite pleasantly surprised. Good QPR.

@idnfl: Like said many times. It's according to a WS study from '05.

@Slew: IIRC it's noticeable for most people once it reaches a very low ppm figure (like 5), which is a pretty useless fact to know but whatever.
And then there's the thing with corked wines with a screw cap. Any new insights about it in the industry since our last discussion here?

TCA can infect the machinery used to make wine. Awful stuff.

also, that score at Z's was very solid, I'd be happy with any of those. The Wiemer is awesome and one of my favorites.

It was hidden in a spoiler, I didn't notice it.

Seems incredibly high. That's 1 btl per case. Was the study testing for really small amounts?

2800 bottles, according to Wikipedia (I don't have the paid access to WS online)

Me either, I searched for a wiki page and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_taint
Hmmm, 2 studies with a 10x difference in results. The WS study must have been testing for much smaller levels. The .7 still seems high but plausable, that's about 1 bottle every 8 1/2 cases.

tonight:

FWIW, 1 case = 6 bottles. So 1 bottle per case = 1/6 = 0.1666... != 7/100. : But I agree, it seems quite high. Haven't had many wines that were corked but some that were a little off, so yeah, they probably looked for traces (i.e. high ppt or so).

Didn't drink a lot of wine in the past two weeks (more in the mood for cocktails). Tomorrow I'll braise some hare legs in a port wine/thyme sauce (Dartagnan's recipe). I'm thinking about either cracking open the C-d-P Cuvée des Vaticans '09 or Rainero Castello di Meleto '04. What do you guys think?

in the US, 1 case = 12 bottles

I figured idnfl couldn't be that far off, but why do you Americs have to do everything differently?
So when you usually refer to "bought a case of XYZ", do you mean 12 bottles?

12 bottle or the equivalent of (6 mags, etc)

Good to know.

So... super tuscan (I think the Rainero is one) or C-d-P for hare?

i'd say the Castello di Meleto solely because I've been to their castle.