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post #14971 of 18038
Really, I think Z's is much better than Astor. The problem with Z's is the all over the map pricing, but if you watch out for sales and specials you can do well.
post #14972 of 18038
That Herman Wiemer is a pretty good bottle for what it is. Was not expecting much first time I had it, and was quite pleasantly surprised. Good QPR.
post #14973 of 18038
@idnfl: Like said many times. It's according to a WS study from '05.

@Slew: IIRC it's noticeable for most people once it reaches a very low ppm figure (like 5), which is a pretty useless fact to know but whatever. laugh.gif
And then there's the thing with corked wines with a screw cap. Any new insights about it in the industry since our last discussion here?
post #14974 of 18038
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

And then there's the thing with corked wines with a screw cap. Any new insights about it in the industry since our last discussion here?

TCA can infect the machinery used to make wine. Awful stuff.
post #14975 of 18038
also, that score at Z's was very solid, I'd be happy with any of those. The Wiemer is awesome and one of my favorites.
post #14976 of 18038
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Originally Posted by b1os View Post

@idnfl: Like said many times. It's according to a WS study from '05.

It was hidden in a spoiler, I didn't notice it.

Seems incredibly high. That's 1 btl per case. Was the study testing for really small amounts?
post #14977 of 18038
2800 bottles, according to Wikipedia (I don't have the paid access to WS online)
post #14978 of 18038
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

2800 bottles, according to Wikipedia (I don't have the paid access to WS online)

Me either, I searched for a wiki page and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_taint
Quote:
The cork-industry group APCOR cites a study showing a 0.7-1.2% taint rate. In a 2005 study of 2800 bottles tasted at the Wine Spectator blind-tasting facilities in Napa, California, 7% of the bottles were found to be tainted.[1]

Hmmm, 2 studies with a 10x difference in results. The WS study must have been testing for much smaller levels. The .7 still seems high but plausable, that's about 1 bottle every 8 1/2 cases.
post #14979 of 18038
tonight:
post #14980 of 18038
FWIW, 1 case = 6 bottles. So 1 bottle per case = 1/6 = 0.1666... != 7/100. teacha.giftongue.gif: But I agree, it seems quite high. Haven't had many wines that were corked but some that were a little off, so yeah, they probably looked for traces (i.e. high ppt or so).

Didn't drink a lot of wine in the past two weeks (more in the mood for cocktails). Tomorrow I'll braise some hare legs in a port wine/thyme sauce (Dartagnan's recipe). I'm thinking about either cracking open the C-d-P Cuvée des Vaticans '09 or Rainero Castello di Meleto '04. What do you guys think?
post #14981 of 18038
in the US, 1 case = 12 bottles
post #14982 of 18038
I figured idnfl couldn't be that far off, but why do you Americs have to do everything differently? laugh.gif
So when you usually refer to "bought a case of XYZ", do you mean 12 bottles?
post #14983 of 18038
12 bottle or the equivalent of (6 mags, etc)
post #14984 of 18038
Good to know.

So... super tuscan (I think the Rainero is one) or C-d-P for hare? smile.gif
post #14985 of 18038
i'd say the Castello di Meleto solely because I've been to their castle.

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