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Piobaire is on ignore and knows it. A bottle of Chinon says ^^^ quotes me or is directed at me. Am I right? Just move on old man, I've no interest in your snark or antics.
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Funny. When you ignore someone it just says "This user..." Only if a person was not on ignore would one know who just posted...
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It sounds like you appreciate primary characteristics of burgundy or wine in general. People who primarily buy burgundy appreciate the tertiary development that occurs way down the road, often after it has been a dumb or closed down stage where it shows nothing. If you do like the primary characteristics more, than buying burgundy is defintely not the value play as you mentioned. So be it.
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Originally Posted by pscolari View Post

It sounds like you appreciate primary characteristics of burgundy or wine in general. People who primarily buy burgundy appreciate the tertiary development that occurs way down the road, often after it has been a dumb or closed down stage where it shows nothing. If you do like the primary characteristics more, than buying burgundy is defintely not the value play as you mentioned. So be it.

That about sums it up. My experience is that folks confuse the stage you mention as development when its often just way past its peak. But peak is mailable to ones taste. I guess some like that wine that dies in 20 mins, its not my thing.

What I see is that folks can't get past the idea that this $200 wine has had it. Objectively, a blind tasting would likely expose how flat it is. But trying to impress your friends, eh.

My personal taste is to have some pop left in the wine. I can appreciate the refinement of extensive bottle age, but its not so special as to fork over the same price for a bottle as of a case of something good. That is unless you bought it and aged it, and even then I'm often shocked at the asking price for most average burg that has a good chance of never living up to expectations.
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I had occasion to taste a 1987 Clos Vougeout last night that was perfectly mature, plenty of primary, secondary and tertiary, and not the least hint of going over.
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Had this last night. I thought it had too much wood at first, but once it opened lots of vanilla and black fruit. It's not exactly subtle, but for $15 it met my expectations.
I see there's a good number of fellow Canadians in this thread. I had a 2007 Stratus Red on the weekend that I really enjoyed. For my money I don't think I've had a better Ontario red, even if though it's overpriced at $45.
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I don't know much about Ontario reds (I'm in BC) but I've had some Norman Hardie pinots that were very nice from Prince Edward County.
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

I had occasion to taste a 1987 Clos Vougeout last night that was perfectly mature, plenty of primary, secondary and tertiary, and not the least hint of going over.

this wine was awesome.

A bottle of this and a free evening would make me very happy.
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We won't talk about Ontario reds today. foo.gif
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I had a four pack of that from WTSO. Thought it was a nice QPR.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

We won't talk about Ontario reds today. foo.gif

OK +1, but see if you can get a relative to send you a bottle of his single vineyard stuff. It does not suck balls.
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OK +1, but see if you can get a relative to send you a bottle of his single vineyard stuff. It does not suck balls.

I'll head back in a year or two. I think you have rendered the highest praise here I've even felt like giving an Ontario red. wink.gif

FWIW, was just talking to a friend that owns a winery back home and I guess this was a stellar year. He said the Baco Noir was the best ever....
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Didn't mean to do any of this nest.gif
I was just pleasantly surprised by how much i enjoyed it.
I'm pretty entry level in wine knowledge at the moment, and am trying to explore different regions. On a bit of a Spanish kick right now, so we'll see what the weekend brings.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

...like Piobaire who feels compelled to police this thread and anoint those he feels worthy.

Let's be very clear. I'm the only one that can police this thread.

Now, move along.

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