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post #14641 of 16011
12/5/12 at 4:35pm
Tonight with pot roast: 98 Ogier Cote Rotie. It's awesome! Wonderfully aromatic, entering the maturity window, it's Cote Rotie/Hermitage/et al season.
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post #14642 of 16011
12/5/12 at 4:41pm
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Oh god people, I meant Richbourg & Echezaux. But all of you know that. Sue me for forgetting to say and. They were Romanee-Conti, if anyone is interested in anything except being jerks.

Bullshit.
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Hope you are not replying to me.
Never tasted a burg worth the money live past 30 years with perfect storage. If you have a different experience, do tell.
Some burg has a lot of tannin and develops and is structured to survive past 30 years to justify an $800 a bottle value, but its rare. The only example I have every sampled that ticked all the boxes was a Richebourg Echezeaux and truly warranted its $1200 value.
Most Burg peaks within 20 years, from what I have tried.

Just look at that sentence construction. You clearly were talking about "a" bottle of wine and talked about "its" value.
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post #14643 of 16011
12/5/12 at 4:49pm
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

Tonight with pot roast: 98 Ogier Cote Rotie. It's awesome! Wonderfully aromatic, entering the maturity window, it's Cote Rotie/Hermitage/et al season.

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Just took a sip of this while it's breathing for tonight: 2004 d'Angerville Volnay Clos des Ducs. Very supple and fragrant.

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post #14644 of 16011
12/5/12 at 5:04pm
^^^


I could go for some of that right now.
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post #14645 of 16011
12/5/12 at 5:44pm
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

Tonight with pot roast: 98 Ogier Cote Rotie. It's awesome! Wonderfully aromatic, entering the maturity window, it's Cote Rotie/Hermitage/et al season.

Fun! Good to see some talk about Rhone wines.

I'm not even going to weigh in on the Burgundy conversation as I think you all know my feelings there.
Edited by Slewfoot - 12/6/12 at 5:15am
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post #14646 of 16011
12/5/12 at 5:49pm
Speaking of Rhone, I have this and hope to read it over Xmas, in front of the fire while sipping some wine: http://www.amazon.com/Chateauneuf-du-Pape-Wine-Book-Harry-Karis/dp/9081201719/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354758476&sr=8-1&keywords=chateauneuf+du+pape

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post #14647 of 16011
12/5/12 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Speaking of Rhone, I have this and hope to read it over Xmas, in front of the fire while sipping some wine: http://www.amazon.com/Chateauneuf-du-Pape-Wine-Book-Harry-Karis/dp/9081201719/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354758476&sr=8-1&keywords=chateauneuf+du+pape
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For Northern Rhone - to complete the set - this is a good one:

http://www.amazon.com/Wines-Northern-Rh%C3%B4ne-John-Livingstone-Learmonth/dp/0520244338/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1354758752&sr=1-1&keywords=john+livingstone-learmonth
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post #14648 of 16011
12/5/12 at 8:43pm
Tasted a 2010 Beaucastel tonight - I dig it. I really dig it.
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post #14649 of 16011
12/6/12 at 5:14am
I had one ofthose cheapo Charles Smith wines. "Steak House Cabernet". Pretty damn good for $12.
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post #14650 of 16011
12/6/12 at 5:18am
Had an ME SB last night. I'm getting the entire case I'm usually allocated in 2013.
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post #14651 of 16011
12/6/12 at 7:42am
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Originally Posted by itsstillmatt View Post

I generally have not had bad experiences with Burgundies.

Interestingly, Matt, the two or three best Burgs I've had was during a CA trip, incl. the very good Nuits St. Georges we had during dinner in SFO. My Burg experiences from the LCBO have not been quite so good. Probably, due to my naiveté with the terroir/vintage/age, etc rather than the appellation.
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post #14652 of 16011
12/6/12 at 7:50am
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Tasted a 2010 Beaucastel tonight - I dig it. I really dig it.

Love it, but even a little age on this wine improves it tenfold. If you can get a hold of a bottle of 1999....

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post #14653 of 16011
12/6/12 at 7:59am
with Burg, it's producer, producer, producer.


I'd argue that Bachelet's $40-45 "cote de nuits" is far superior to almost every $40-45 Gevrey-Chambertin or Chambolle Musigny or Vosne-Romanee or any premier cru vineyeard in any of those villages.
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post #14654 of 16011
12/6/12 at 8:26am
I'm going to order a Bachelet or two next week. This mystery must be solved.
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post #14655 of 16011
12/6/12 at 9:18am
Give the 2008 Cotes de Nuits-Village a try - it's probably the least expensive one out there. I can get it for $40 but they're asking $55 for the '09 where I shop.
There is a regular Bachelet Bourgogne which is ok but I'd go for the CdN-V...
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