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This is very interesting. Interesting nose. Impressive intensity in taste, very rich, full bodied, long aftertaste. Almost a tad too strong! Completely different ballpark than the entry level (Terassen Feldspiel) Grüner Veltliner from Domäne Wachau which I've had back in August.
Finishing a bottle of Bila-Haut right now. Young, yes. But after about 1-2 hours of breathing, it opens up nicely to an intense young wine. Great bang for the buck.
Domäne Wachau has some pretty awesome stuff in their higher price lineup. Good for larger groups, because many people like them, yet they still keep on the elegant and itneresting side of the drinking spectrum.

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So, I'm looking for some better wines for special occasions. I can get these for relatively reasonable prices (i.e. about 20% below average).
2009 Cuvée du Vatican Réserve Sixtine
2007 Clos du Duc
2009 Gerard Bertrand La Forge
2005 Chateau Marbuzet St Estephe
So, these are all about 25-30€.
1) Any recommendations?
And more importantly, 2), even though the prices are good, would it be more reasonable to invest the money in some more mature wines? That is, are these wines "too young"?
Thanks for the help!
I would take the Cuvée du Vatican R. and the Marbuzet.

What I am drinking these days ... and not alone
Monday:
- 2008 "Alte Reben" Riesling, Van Volxem (OK)
- 2009 "Malterdinger" Pinot Noir, Bernhard Huber (very good)
- 2010 Hubacker Riesling GG, K.P. Keller (really, really young)
Tuesday:
- 1999 Meursault-Charmes, J. Marthot (a bit too old)
- 2010 Pinot Noir, Enderle & Moll (promising)
- 2008 "Vom Buntsandstein" Riesling Spätlese trocken, Rebholz (gorgeous)
Tonight:
- 2011 Riesling trocken, Dönnhoff (big surprise in a good way)
- 2010 "C.A.I." Riesling, Immich-Batterieberg (bitchy)
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Domäne Wachau has some pretty awesome stuff in their higher price lineup. Good for larger groups, because many people like them, yet they still keep on the elegant and itneresting side of the drinking spectrum.
I would take the Cuvée du Vatican R. and the Marbuzet.
What I am drinking these days ... and not alone
Monday:
- 2008 "Alte Reben" Riesling, Van Volxem (OK)
- 2009 "Malterdinger" Pinot Noir, Bernhard Huber (very good)
- 2010 Hubacker Riesling GG, K.P. Keller (really, really young)
Tuesday:
- 1999 Meursault-Charmes, J. Marthot (a bit too old)
- 2010 Pinot Noir, Enderle & Moll (promising)
- 2008 "Vom Buntsandstein" Riesling Spätlese trocken, Rebholz (gorgeous)
Tonight:
- 2011 Riesling trocken, Dönnhoff (big surprise in a good way)
- 2010 "C.A.I." Riesling, Immich-Batterieberg (bitchy)
Have you had the Marbuzet '05 or Cuvée du Vatican? (anyway, these were my two choices, so thanks for the affirmation).

Do you have any experience with Reichsrat von Buhls's Forster Ungeheuer / Forster Jesuitengarten (both '08)? Are they worth the price (23€)?
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Quite enjoyable for semi seco. Very raisin flavor. Sherry like. Smelled similar to Dos Maders 5+5. (oxidized? Other cavas didn't have it so extremely, maybe because it's semi seco?)



Pretty much my fist port wine. Unfortunately, the 20 was sold out. This here is quite approachable and tasty. Concentrated raisin flavor, cocoa/coffee (actually reminds me a little of Courvoisier VSOP), some burnt caramel and spices. I don't really have a comparison to others but I think it's a good port wine for beginners. I figure port wine can be more complex though. Length of aftertaste is ok.
Seems a littlle odd to me to drink port wine chilled, but it tastes good.
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Have you had the Marbuzet '05 or Cuvée du Vatican? (anyway, these were my two choices, so thanks for the affirmation).
Do you have any experience with Reichsrat von Buhls's Forster Ungeheuer / Forster Jesuitengarten (both '08)? Are they worth the price (23€)?
I have had older vintages from both the Vatican and Marbuzet. 09 is generally considered a good vintage, so any mid-tier producer should be fine. Concerning Buhl: If you have access to Von Winning, I would recommend buying their Ungeheuer (mid range) and Jesuitengarten (GG=pricey) instead, but that is a very subjective recommendation. Von Winning is known for producing very modern Rieslings, aged in medium to small oak barrels (minimal to no toasting, of course). Jesuitengarten generally is a very good Lage, so you can't go wrong with many of the producers who have vineyards there. Von Winning is bound to give you some of the more memorable Riesling experiences, though.
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best of the bigger producers, IMO. A little lean for my tastes, but good. Has a touch of that character in the '96 Clos St Hildaire that I had a few weeks ago that reminded me so much of Chablis - ie chalk soil.

Edit: Ooops, this was meant to be a photo of the Billecart-Salmon Brut. Bottle looks similar!

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Screaming deal - K&L has like five vintages of this at $18-20. Structured and classic, with plenty of savory and earthy goodness. Still tastes young, though I don't think it will make it more than 2-4 more years without starting to dry out. Already there isn't much fruit left. While I worship at the altar of the Burgundian Godesses Pinot and Chard, this is a good way to scratch the Cabernet itch.
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I like Lanessan a lot, good wine, good prices.
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Had a couple of bottles of this at Jaleo Las Vegas with friends last night:



Especially given the location & setting, I thought it was a stunning bargain at $49 a bottle.
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I like Lanessan a lot, good wine, good prices.

+1
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that Billecart C-S-H might be at the top of my list of Champs I'd like to try.
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I have found you can get some really nice bottles of wine, well prices, at places in Vegas.
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that Billecart C-S-H might be at the top of my list of Champs I'd like to try.

Unfortunately there's a lot of bottle variation with it so I wouldn't try it on your own dime.
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how about your dime?
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would an 85 Mumm still be alive?
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how about your dime?

My dimes go elsewhere. Steed and Burgundy. Not to mention wife and daughter!
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mmmmmm Burgundy .... I'm glad I have a more or less full closet so that I can now channel all of my irresponsible spending in that direction.
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