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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

i haven't had any bad "vin de pays", simply uninteresting.
IMO, uninteresting > bad.

Yeah, basically this. Drinkable, but that's about it. There is this restaurant by me that I used to go to all of the time that had some obscure one as their house red that was, imo great, but it disappeared pretty quickly.
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A propos the Nebbiolo conversation above, that Produttori Langhe @ ~$20 is a nice example of how accessible a young Nebbiolo can be in the right hands. I've had it a few times and it needs a rough pour and swirl to get it to open up but I think it is a nice pizza or grilled meat wine.
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A propos the Nebbiolo conversation above, that Produttori Langhe @ ~$20 is a nice example of how accessible a young Nebbiolo can be in the right hands. I've had it a few times and it needs a rough pour and swirl to get it to open up but I think it is a nice pizza or grilled meat wine.

I had a sparkling nebbiolo with pizza once. It was fantastic. I was incredibly bloated afterwards though.
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I'm a big fan of Produttori in general. Their stuff is well made, easy to find, affordable, and strikes a good balance between approachable at youth yet still has the legs to age nicely.
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Originally Posted by tattersall View Post

A propos the Nebbiolo conversation above, that Produttori Langhe @ ~$20 is a nice example of how accessible a young Nebbiolo can be in the right hands. I've had it a few times and it needs a rough pour and swirl to get it to open up but I think it is a nice pizza or grilled meat wine.
I agree with this. The Langhe and other lower end bottlings of the good producers can be quite good and enjoyable young. I like Vietti's nebbiolos as well as the lower end Giacosa bottlings.
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Been drinking Nebbiolo Rose lately. Tasty.
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Is it just me or do they often appear more orange than rose colored? Orange'!
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orange hues (or a bricky-orange) are not uncommon from Nebbiolo. Can't help but think that the rose would have a tendency to emphasize this..
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

I'm a big fan of Produttori in general. Their stuff is well made, easy to find, affordable, and strikes a good balance between approachable at youth yet still has the legs to age nicely.

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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

I agree with this. The Langhe and other lower end bottlings of the good producers can be quite good and enjoyable young. I like Vietti's nebbiolos as well as the lower end Giacosa bottlings.

I've yet to be disappointed by Produttori. Speaking of lower end bottlings from good producers - this Barbera from Giacomo Conterno is excellent - not quite a $20 bargain (and expensive for a Barbera) but so well made and drinkable for something so young...

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Having some friends over on friday and i'm going out for shopping, any good tips? Both red and white.

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Went to a Riesling tasting dinner tonight. Focused exclusively on German. I probably can't do justice describing any of these.
Hans Wirsching Iphofer "Julius-Echter-Berg" Kabinett Trocken, Franken 2009
Egon Müller "Scharzhofberger" Kabinett, Saar 2009

These two were paired with a trio of acrtic char (confit, smoked and tartare). The Wirsching went really well with this. Dry, but still quite rich, whereas the Müller was much sweeter, and sort of clashed with the fish.
Bürklin-Wolf "Rebhachel" Grosses Gewächs, Pfalz 1998
Keller "Abst Erde" Grosses Gewächs, Rheinhessen 2010

These were paired with zaatar rice flake crusted scallops, fennel and saffron-tomato relish. The Bürklin-Wolf worked really well with the brininess of the scallop. The Keller was clean and pure; one of my favorite dry Rieslings.
Karthäuserhof "Eitelsbacher" Spätlese, Ruwer 2002
Robert Weil "Kiedricher Gräfenberg" Spätlese, Rheingau 2008

Some sweeter ones here to pair with whole roasted foie gras, poached peaches, green almonds and purslane. Both were good, the Weil standing out. I actually though the Müller from the first pairing worked best with this dish.
J.J Prüm "Wehlener Sonnenuhr" Auslese, Mosel 2009
Donnhof "Oberhauser Brücke Auslese Gold Kapsule, Nahe 2009

Dessert was poached rhubarb, vanilla crémeux, sablé Breton, rhubarb-sauternes ice cream. The Prum was amazing, as I knew it would be. Floral and fresh, with intense clarity; against the acidity of the rhubarb, a really nice match.
I agree with you on the Abtserde. The Karthäuserhof should have been good, too.
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Karthauserhof is a great place to visit, bring a jacket, the tasting room is cool.  Very beautiful tile work as well.  Christoff is a great host.  It was the last visit of the day, tasting '05's.  Tasted 4 TBA's!  One from Zilliken, 2 from Von Hovel and the Kart.  Amazing day!  '05 may be the best vintage of the '00's.  More botrytis than '01 and lots of concentration.

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Enjoyed this last night - '06 Fevre Montee de Tonnerre. Austere but starting to mellow; mineral and lemony with a touch of oak but certainly not in excess.

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By any chance has anybody had Graci Quota 600 Etna Rosso 2008?
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