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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

I bought some 750s and magnums of this, along with the 96 rose' five or six years ago. Upon release, this was virtually undrinkable, it was incredibly effervescent with shrill levels of acidity. It has rounded out nicely and is a wonderful drink and will go for decades.

Tough to beat good '96 Champagnes.
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yeah i have not had a bad 96. the worst I can say is that I have had some too young
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

Tough to beat good '96 Champagnes.

suggestions on when to pop the 96 Oeno?
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

suggestions on when to pop the 96 Oeno?

I've had it a few times recently and it's very drinkable. I wouldn't hesitate if there's a special occasion, such as the wine itself. All the Oenos are excellent out of the gates upon release. How the Oeno's will age remains to be seen.
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

I've been finding Southing and Ten for less than that. The couple of stores never have more than two-three bottles but I've probably been paying $60-ish.

Well southing was 52 there, I have 6 bottles in the cooler tho. Ten was 82 on release; if you can get it for 60 I'd buy all day long. I'd be interested in any extra ten or botella you may have sitting around.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Couple of whites tonight. First, just a little something to sip while cooking. Did not have the full floral nose I look for with this grape but a fine bottle for $6.
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Next bottle was just killer. Paired with some pollock fillets, almond quinoa, and balsamic glaze zucchini.
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This guy was obviously unfiltered, unfined and not cold stabilized.
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Some great stuff!

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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

suggestions on when to pop the 96 Oeno?

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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

I've had it a few times recently and it's very drinkable. I wouldn't hesitate if there's a special occasion, such as the wine itself. All the Oenos are excellent out of the gates upon release. How the Oeno's will age remains to be seen.

cool, thanks. '96 is the one DP vintage that still seems a little tight to me, though to be fair I haven't had a bottle in at least a year and a half. Looking forward to popping some of the Oeno.
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2005 greysac that I bought 2.5 years ago (Wow!) was drinking fine last night. Better than I remember it. more like bordeaux and less like Napa
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Originally Posted by Cary Grant View Post

I've been finding Southing and Ten for less than that. The couple of stores never have more than two-three bottles but I've probably been paying $60-ish.

Well southing was 52 there, I have 6 bottles in the cooler tho. Ten was 82 on release; if you can get it for 60 I'd buy all day long. I'd be interested in any extra ten or botella you may have sitting around.

I'm not 100% sure but I think 09 was the first vintage after they lost their original winemaker, Kris Curran. I'm 99% sure 09 was the first vintage without him and that probably accounts for the pricing along with a generally softer market for high end CA wine in the last few years. Softer, not soft, but enough to have a little impact when you have other changes going on at your winery. I know I passed on my Sea Smoke this year as I think it's just too overpriced for what you get these days. Also, the owner put something stupid on the label recently, "Grand Cru" or something.
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2005 greysac that I bought 2.5 years ago (Wow!) was drinking fine last night. Better than I remember it. more like bordeaux and less like Napa

Chateau Ballsac
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keep in mind that '09, '10, and '11 were cool vintages throughout the state. Softer wines were made in pretty much every appelation, esp compared to the blockbusters of '05 and '07 and the still vigorous '06s and '08s. In fact the napa vintners call '09-'11 the "little ice age."
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

Chateau Ballsac
it was respectable and easily worth the $10 I paid for it
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

keep in mind that '09, '10, and '11 were cool vintages throughout the state. Softer wines were made in pretty much every appelation, esp compared to the blockbusters of '05 and '07 and the still vigorous '06s and '08s. In fact the napa vintners call '09-'11 the "little ice age."

A good point. Did not many producers have far lower yields too due to some weather issues? I seem to remember northern Sonoma might have had a frost in the last year or two.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Just had this. Cost me $35 in 2010. Absolutely killer. Plush, dark berries, mocha, smooth tannins. I'm going to buy several more bottles if I can.

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Btw, I want to stress how damn good this was.
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

A good point. Did not many producers have far lower yields too due to some weather issues? I seem to remember northern Sonoma might have had a frost in the last year or two.
Yeah, it was basically either harvest early to avoid the rains or wait for ripeness and endure reduced yields as the rain rots half your grapes. Either way, they were fucked and the wines suffered. I mean, they are not terrible like the old disaster vintages of Bordeaux but they are much less powerfull than the rest of the last decade. The last really half-assed vintage in california was 2000 and even it did not totally suck.
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