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post #1276 of 20661
it's called dual-region terroire macro and micro flavor profiles
post #1277 of 20661
Something tells me by gomes responses tonight he's in a really great mood, been drinking, or both.
post #1278 of 20661
no drinking tonight, I had a plate of Halal (lamb over rice. everything. white and hot sauces) that just destroyed me into a coma this afternoon. KWilk inspired that, btw. I'll be out of the office in about 20-30 mins, going to pack when I get home.
post #1279 of 20661
for the Cali wine lovers, good news from Mr. Parker:

"Despite the fact that bureaucrats continue to say the recession is ending, it seems to me there remain considerable stocks of unsold, high-end California wines that have yet to be dumped into the marketplace. We will continue to witness a correction in California wine prices, and the elimination of back stocks, especially for the very large wineries for at least another 12 months, possibly longer."
post #1280 of 20661
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post
for the Cali wine lovers, good news from Mr. Parker:

"Despite the fact that bureaucrats continue to say the recession is ending, it seems to me there remain considerable stocks of unsold, high-end California wines that have yet to be dumped into the marketplace. We will continue to witness a correction in California wine prices, and the elimination of back stocks, especially for the very large wineries for at least another 12 months, possibly longer."

Been a long time coming, anyone thought that they could lay down some plants and get $120 a bottle.

On a side note anyone try any of the Two Hands wines from the napa vinyard?
post #1281 of 20661
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Originally Posted by Serg View Post
Been a long time coming, anyone thought that they could lay down some plants and get $120 a bottle.

On a side note anyone try any of the Two Hands wines from the napa vinyard?

Does Oprah have her own wine yet?
post #1282 of 20661
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Does Oprah have her own wine yet?

NOprah. But who cares when we have this.
post #1283 of 20661
oh my god. This is great and made me laugh out loud:

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While traveling the world, I've had the incredible opportunity to experience some of the world's greatest wines. My passion for enjoying those fine wines has led me to pursue my lifelong dream of starting my own winery. Our premium collection is simply some of the best wine that California has to offer. I'm very proud to present our rich, complex blends and world class varietals from the finest vineyards in the Central Coast, Monterey and Paso Robles regions. Our wines are hand-crafted to ensure excellence in every bottle and I personally invite you to try our wines and share in my passion. - Lil Jon
post #1284 of 20661
isn't somebody looking to revamp their wine list? Hint hint??
post #1285 of 20661
Already sent an e-mail. Rhinestone goblets will really take our stemware to the next level.
post #1286 of 20661
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post
for the Cali wine lovers, good news from Mr. Parker:

"Despite the fact that bureaucrats continue to say the recession is ending, it seems to me there remain considerable stocks of unsold, high-end California wines that have yet to be dumped into the marketplace. We will continue to witness a correction in California wine prices, and the elimination of back stocks, especially for the very large wineries for at least another 12 months, possibly longer."

I'm seeing this from the smaller wineries, that can't afford to sit on inventory, but not to a large extent. Like Loring is about what Loring was last year, Beaux Freres is down a little, but still far from cheap. The well established (and no doubt capitalized) places, like say William-Sayem, not seeing much movement. Harlan is still egregiously expensive. Etc.

Something does have to give though, as I know grape growers are hurting badly.
post #1287 of 20661
Have great envy for anyone spending holidays in Sonoma or Napa. Since my son is in the wine business in Dallas, we make regular trips out there. Highlight of this Octobers outing was my first visit to Stryker. I'd strongly recommend it. Their wines are distributed to the hospitalty trade only but are available for purchase at the winery. They specialize in big, bold Zins with tremendous personality. Unless you've enjoyed this label at a high end restaurant, it may be a first for you. Just a suggestion.
post #1288 of 20661
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post
I'm seeing this from the smaller wineries, that can't afford to sit on inventory, but not to a large extent. Like Loring is about what Loring was last year, Beaux Freres is down a little, but still far from cheap. The well established (and no doubt capitalized) places, like say William-Sayem, not seeing much movement. Harlan is still egregiously expensive. Etc.

Something does have to give though, as I know grape growers are hurting badly.

don't forget about the stocks the distributors and stores have. I think this is how I was able to swipe a Loring Graham Vineyard for $22 a bottle, and this is likely the driver behind Cindy Wine. I think the effect will be global with the biggest dollar impact on good quality but stupidly priced California wine and then separately with Bordeaux as they re-adjust after the monumental 2005's that sent prices through the stratosphere (and thus shifted the 2006 and 2007's up).

I think this would be very good for California as it could weed out all of the producers who think they can just grow some vines and sell a 87-90 pt. wine for $120.
post #1289 of 20661
Agree with merchants having to move product. Like I said though, I think the real shove is going to come from the grower side though, at least in terms of West Coast wine. Due to many wineries not wanting to risk capital in production, record low prices for grapes were being seen. This might cause a fairly substantial shift in the entire paradigm.
post #1290 of 20661
What are y'all drinking for the long holiday weekend?
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