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Been MIA due to an internship. Incase any of you were wondering...California vermentino sucks.

Details tomorrow.
 

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Originally Posted by Johnny_5
Been MIA due to an internship. Incase any of you were wondering...California vermentino sucks.

Details tomorrow.


I was wondering where is Johnny.

I was not wondering about Cali Vermentino. Way too vigorous of a vine for much of Cali, even for much of Italy (with the exception of a few stellar areas).
 

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Last night, Zin tasting up at the place. Ravenwood Old Vine and Taldeshi, Klinker Brick Olf Vine. Eh.

Stayed for dinner, again. Had another couple with us and we had an 05 RRV Kosta Browne (incredible) and an 07 Clarkridge Turley (Cali Zin at its best).
 

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Received a nice little wedding gift the other day: 2005 Domaine Grivot Vosne Romanee Premier Cru. Should age well.
 

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Another very nice red Burg. Yay!
 

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Originally Posted by Eustace
Received a nice little wedding gift the other day: 2005 Domaine Grivot Vosne Romanee Premier Cru. Should age well.

Congrats, and please give your friends my contact info. I want friends like that.
 

Eustace

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Originally Posted by Manton
Another very nice red Burg. Yay!

Will not be able to confirm for 10 years or so but I hope so.
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Congrats, and please give your friends my contact info. I want friends like that.

Thanks! He's in the wine biz, and he was a groomsmen, so it was a perfect gift. Contact info on its way.....
 

gomestar

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Originally Posted by Eustace
Will not be able to confirm for 10 years or so but I hope so.
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10 years will likely yield a wine past its peak, consider 5 to play it safe
 

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What is your basis for that? I was told not to drink before 2010 and that 2025 would be conservative. I would think it will hold up until 2020 without issue.
 

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Originally Posted by Eustace
What is your basis for that? I was told not to drink before 2010 and that 2025 would be conservative. I would think it will hold up until 2020 without issue.

actually, I overlooked the important part that you left out: what does it say after "premier cru"? Les Chaumes, Les Beaux Monts, or Le Suchots? The standard Vosne Romanee will certainly be past peak in 2020, but Chaumes and Suchots will be long lasting.
 

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Originally Posted by gomestar
actually, I overlooked the important part that you left out: what does it say after "premier cru"? Les Chaumes, Les Beaux Monts, or Le Suchots? The standard Vosne Romanee will certainly be past peak in 2020, but Chaumes and Suchots will be long lasting.

Les Beaux Monts. I would think if any vintage is going to hold up, it's going to be '05.
 

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Originally Posted by Eustace
Les Beaux Monts. I would think if any vintage is going to hold up, it's going to be '05.
indeed all of the '05s from Vosne-Romanee I've had have been very structured and tannic - certainly longer lasting. Deeming 2025 to be conservative seems like a bit of a stretch to me, I'd be more inclined to say 2020 as the start of the peak, assuming it will be stored with proper temperature and humidity control. 2025 will also be great, I just tend to be hesitant about calling it conservative. Les Suchots tends seems to be the long laster in Vosne-Romanee, not to take away from the other vineyards. but, alas, I have not had any 20 year old 2005 Burgs to judge, so it's merely an opinion based on past consumption. And in any case, it is a fantastic wine that will be magnificent at its peak.
 

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Thanks. It's nice that you've had a bevy of '05 Vosne-Romanee already
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I'll probably try to hold out for 2020 but will almost certainly drink it before then.
 

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