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post #10126 of 18227
'08 Champalou Vouvray with some takeout chinese.
post #10127 of 18227
2007 Stephen Test SB. RRV, same cost as Merry Edwards. This is my 4th or 5th time having this wine, and it always gives ME a run for the money.
post #10128 of 18227
08 Kosta Browne RRV and an 08 Claypool Hurst Vineyard. Big spread of cheeses, charcuterie, olives, etc.
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Thread Starter 
Yet to have Kosta Browne. Read nothing but good things. Never seen one on a list or at the LCBO. If it's anything like Kistler, I'm in.
post #10130 of 18227
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It's funny that you'd mention Chateau Palmer as that is a prime example of the shift in Bordeaux pricing over the last 10 years. What was once an affordable table wine, is no longer that way. Across the board, prices have skyrocketed, which brings me back to my original point that started all this -- Enjoying good Bordeaux is tough at $30 or less per bottle.

The sad predicament of current release Bordeaux is another story all together...I do agree that finding good Bordeaux under $30 is very difficult especially since Bordeaux really needs 10+ years for even mediocre vintages. I do find that's quite easy to find mature Bordeaux from Classified Growths that are 15+ years of age from decent vintages for around $60 per bottle. That's not a fortune yet makes the times when I drink Bordeaux at home less frequent. For younger wines, I prefer a Mon Coeur Chave or Morgon Lapierre or Bourgogne Cathiard that are softer and smoother and have more character at 3 years of age than most any Bordeaux at that age.

Very preoccupied with drinking this tomorrow night with dinner:

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post #10131 of 18227
Saturday night's dinner.

In all three cases, and regardless of the $$$... count me a tiny bit underwhelmed. The Gaja was certainly lovely but I've had as enjoyable wine for much less. I've had better from Shafer as well. Nonetheless, a decadent evening, great food and conversation. the second course involved a mushroom pan sauce that was inlove.gif with the Shafer.

None needed any significant decanting, in fact we left the Gaja in the bottle, it opened quickly in the glass. The Ridge was probably the least interesting.

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post #10132 of 18227
^ Fun stuff! I agree that modern Gaja's can be underwhelming. I much prefer the Gaja straight Barbaresco from 1995 and prior which are almost always significantly less money than current release stuff from the single vineyards.
post #10133 of 18227
Last night had an 07 Stefania Uvas Creek Cab. Sauv. As always, need to decant Paul's wine (unfiltered, unfined) but also full of fruit with medium tannins; just right for a drink young CA cab. Had with perfectly fired aged ribeyes, caramelized onions, and roasted B. sprouts with garlic. Great Sunday dinner for us smile.gif
post #10134 of 18227
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Tonight I had a bottle of Lioco's 2008 Sonoma Co Chardonnay with dinner (roast chicken) - these guys continue to impress. I've never been a chardonnay fan but their deft handling of Burgundian fruit is impressive. II have 2 bottles of their Hirsch vineyard Pinot Noir and one more of the Michaud - Chalone on deck with plans to acquire more and keep them for 5 and 10 years. Their Indica red blend is (for the money) sublime. Tonight I also picked up a full case of their 2006 Charles Heitz vineyard Chardonnay @ $10 per bottle - some local store my friends go to had it on closeout. Excited to try it.

The real star of the evening, however was Le bon petit diable Cabernet Franc 2009. Lots of flowers and sour cherries, no herbal mess, and just a great example of how unadulteratedly simple a pleasure and delight drinking wine with friends after dinner can be.500

I didn't like the Le bon petit diable Cabernet Franc 2009. It tasted like a candy cane to me, very sweet, very fruity. After about an hour of being open I felt the quality dropped as well. Probably because it is biodynamic.
post #10135 of 18227
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I didn't like the Le bon petit diable Cabernet Franc 2009. It tasted like a candy cane to me, very sweet, very fruity. After about an hour of being open I felt the quality dropped as well. Probably because it is biodynamic.

I thought it tasted floral and fruity, but not sweet, and I"m pretty sensitive to residual sugar in reds. Still, who knows? Maybe it wasn't the 2009 - maybe the bottle I had was the '10? Not sure.
post #10136 of 18227
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I thought it tasted floral and fruity, but not sweet, and I"m pretty sensitive to residual sugar in reds. Still, who knows? Maybe it wasn't the 2009 - maybe the bottle I had was the '10? Not sure.

I could be wrong but residual sugar does not need to be present for a perception of sweetness. http://www.ajevonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/35/2/110
post #10137 of 18227
^^ My understanding too- it's largely the acids, tannins and alcohol that most affect perception of "sweetness", yes?
post #10138 of 18227
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Originally Posted by Slewfoot View Post

^ Fun stuff! I agree that modern Gaja's can be underwhelming. I much prefer the Gaja straight Barbaresco from 1995 and prior which are almost always significantly less money than current release stuff from the single vineyards.

Have not had the honor of the older Barbarescos- must try.
post #10139 of 18227
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^^ My understanding too- it's largely the acids, tannins and alcohol that most affect perception of "sweetness", yes?

Its true but I think of r.s. being more of a factor in red wine's perception of sweetness than in whites. I may be in error here, but I imagine there aren't a lot of reds like Gewurztraminer, which can be technically "dry" but tastes so fruity that its percieved as sweet. I'm not sure on that though, its just a feeling I have.
post #10140 of 18227
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Have not had the honor of the older Barbarescos- must try.

The Rare Wine Co. out in California usually has great provenance and they appear to have a 1982 for less than the 2000 Sori San Lorenzo usually goes for. If you get it just let the sediment settle for at least two weeks after shipping. Enjoy!
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