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post #16 of 49
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Ok, I'll bite: what's a "˜properly sized engine'?

What's Formula-1 capped at? 2400cc now, right? That sounds like a reasonable maximum displacement for any street car, as well.

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And why is the Enzo stupid (I'm not going to ask about beauty, which is in the eye of the beholder).

Haven't you ever seen an Enzo with a broken front valence? Being too low for actual street use is simply stupid design on a street car. It is no better than a riced out Civic.
post #17 of 49
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
What's Formula-1 capped at? 2400cc now, right? That sounds like a reasonable maximum displacement for any street car, as well.

Haven't you ever seen an Enzo with a broken front valence? Being too low for actual street use is simply stupid design on a street car. It is no better than a riced out Civic.

You're joking, right? You can't create the Enzo's HP with a F1 engine and drive it on the road, day in and day out, completely unpractical.

The primary reason the valance is broken on an Enzo is because the person driving the car did not hit the button, which raises the nose in order to traverse less than perfectly smooth terrain.

Jon.
post #18 of 49
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the plot thickens. his SLR was just confiscated:
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...0,377122.story
This person is different than the 612 P4/5 owner.
post #19 of 49
Jon alluded to the guy who destroyed his Enzo on PCH last month. My contribution was a digression in that direcion...
post #20 of 49
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Jon alluded to the guy who destroyed his Enzo on PCH last month. My contribution was a digression in that direcion...

I concur.



Jon.
post #21 of 49
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Originally Posted by SGladwell
What's Formula-1 capped at? 2400cc now, right? That sounds like a reasonable maximum displacement for any street car, as well.



Haven't you ever seen an Enzo with a broken front valence? Being too low for actual street use is simply stupid design on a street car. It is no better than a riced out Civic.

Are you Joe G? Just curious.
post #22 of 49
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Originally Posted by imageWIS
You're joking, right? You can't create the Enzo's HP with a F1 engine and drive it on the road, day in and day out, completely unpractical.

So what? You can't take an Enzo and drive it day in and day out anyway, because it was designed with inadequate ground clearance for street use. Besides which, maybe just maybe having that much hp in a street-driven car is a priori stupid. A 600hp car does nothing that a 300hp car can't, from a street perspective.

PS: Brian, ???.
post #23 of 49
Joe G was some kind of foreign aristocrat. I believe he drove a Lotus, had a penchant for bulgari glasses, and a distain for the way Americans dress while shopping at walmart.
post #24 of 49
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So what? You can't take an Enzo and drive it day in and day out anyway, because it was designed with inadequate ground clearance for street use.
Wrong. It is very useable on the street, and many owners use the car daily.

All Ferraris need front end resprays if actually driven. Drive; respray; repeat. It's a simple formula.

Jim Spiro drove his F50 daily and it has over 40,000 miles on it.
post #25 of 49
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Joe G was some kind of foreign aristocrat. I believe he drove a Lotus, had a penchant for bulgari glasses, and a distain for the way Americans dress while shopping at walmart.

He was also well-spoken in politics, though he got pretty inflammatory at times. One time I brought up an NSX and he flamed it and said something like "Miatas and Lotuses are hte only real sportscars in America." So you had me curious.
post #26 of 49
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Wrong. It is very useable on the street, and many owners use the car daily.

All Ferraris need front end resprays if actually driven. Drive; respray; repeat. It's a simple formula.

Jim Spiro drove his F50 daily and it has over 40,000 miles on it.


I can't wait to see pictures of this in August. JG is crazy I only hope that one day I will be able to throw around cash the way he does for fun.
post #27 of 49
Raley, true that. I've seen it - and it's pretty cool.
Best.
post #28 of 49
I've now seen the finished car. It's spectacular.
post #29 of 49
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I've now seen the finished car. It's spectacular.

I haven't seen it in real life, but from the pictures I saw, I don't think it's that stunning. Although, I think that as of late Pininfarina designs aren't all that impressive (save for the 430) and they are currently in a design-slump.

Jon.
post #30 of 49
On the road, in Italy, next to regular cars... it's an incredible sight.
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