Some Sam Hober silk squares

As many of you know, David Hober of Sam Hober makes some exquisite RTW and bespoke neckties. He also makes pocket squares, and today, I recieved a wonderful little package from Thailand. In it were four silk squares:



The three on the left are Macclesfield prints, and the one on the right what goes for Madder these days.

At any rate, one of the attributes that impressed me the most was how fantastically well the hand rolled edges are done. I don't recall ever seeing such edges done better. At $35 a square, it is quite a bargain.

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The only thing that could be faulted with these is that they are borderless, but the workmanship and the quality of the silks themselves make me forget that entirely.

David also has quite a selection of Riva shirtings that you can get as squares...I plan on getting some myself given what I have seen with the squares that I recieved today.

- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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At any rate, one of the attributes that impressed me the most was how fantastically well the hand rolled edges are done. I don't recall ever seeing such edges done better.
What, IYO, marks the edge rolls as higher quality?

The one on the left is fantastic. What's the turn-around on these like now? I've always been put off from ordering by the talk of 6 month waits, but I also saw a post recently that he has almost cleared the back-log of orders?

Originally Posted by Sanguis Mortuum

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The one on the left is fantastic. What's the turn-around on these like now? I've always been put off from ordering by the talk of 6 month waits, but I also saw a post recently that he has almost cleared the back-log of orders?

I ordered mine on July 3rd. I think that even with the squares, they are made up MTO.


- B

Originally Posted by Rambo

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What, IYO, marks the edge rolls as higher quality?

In my opinion, a small, tight roll that is even throughout, and that is stitched cleanly with regular and fairly dense stitches shows a more craft.

Whether this has any meaning to you is subjective. It would be hard to argue that a square with sloppy edges looks any worse in the pocket...but those edges might not last as long.


- B

Vox: Can you make a comparison between the handsewn edges you discussed in this multi-fold tie thread: http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=94314 with those shown on the pocket squares? IMO the edges shown on these pocket squares have a much cleaner appearance. Would you desire similar edges on a tie?

What is your experience with Hober ties?

nice to see what a real 'hand-rolled edge' actually looks like. i see the craft in it.

the terms been thrown around so much i had no idea what it was; i thought it was for any curling on the end of a hankerchief, so i always thought what the big deal was.

The one on the far left is exquisite. I may copy you and get one. Thanks for the PSA, those edges do look tremendously fine.

Originally Posted by dv3

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IMO the edges shown on these pocket squares have a much cleaner appearance. Would you desire similar edges on a tie?

With an untipped tie, I would be more concerned with how the stitching appears in front and what contribution, if any, the edge can make to mitigate the tendancy of untipped ties in many fabrics to curl at the bottom.

It is also worth keeping in mind that many makers seek to make hand construction or hand decoration more obviously visible (some makers, of course, even get machines to fake it.)

A. Subtle (Attolini):





B. Not (Arnys):





Is the Attolini a better or higher quality tie than the Arnys? That seems like an entirely subjective question. It might be possible to say that one is made more painstakingly than the other, and that in turn might inform your sense of what the value of the product is...but again, that is a couple steps removed from looking good.


- B

Originally Posted by Douglas

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The one on the far left is exquisite. I may copy you and get one. Thanks for the PSA, those edges do look tremendously fine.

you'll be the foo to his yeti.


I am more interested in the Hober Riva cotton/linen squares, those look nicey nice.

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you'll be the foo to his yeti.


I am more interested in the Hober Riva cotton/linen squares, those look nicey nice.

I, like Ed, prefer the linen, although I'm wearing a silk PS today. Guess that means I needz more linenz. Will need to ping SH soon.

Originally Posted by edmorel

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I am more interested in the Hober Riva cotton/linen squares, those look nicey nice.

I going to get a bunch of those...I have no reason to doubt that they are made up like the silk squares, and if so, they would equal Simonnot-Godard.

- B

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

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I going to get a bunch of those...I have no reason to doubt that they are made up like the silk squares, and if so, they would equal Simonnot-Godard.

- B

thanks for warning me, will need to kop before you.

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you'll be the foo to his yeti.

I'm neither short-heighted or long-winded enough to really compete.