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post #91 of 102
9/25/10 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
Today, one of the local sports radio stations had a poll, and overwhelmingly came to the conclusion that Ichiro is overrated and/or overpaid. Guess nobody up here is going to miss him until he's gone.

While he is no doubt a first ballot HOF player, there are faults in his game. All the time during his career you hear about how he can easily go out and hit home runs, but all he tries for is just to get on base it seems. Almost like he is playing for his own stats(to reach 200 hits) and not win games. Sure you can say his job as lead off hitter is to get on base, but when you have a offense as anemic as the M's have been over the last few seasons why the hell isn't he out there trying to swing for the fences? It just seems like this year especially he saw he knew he wasn't going to get any run support and kind of just gave up on winning and went out doing his little slap hits to get to 200. He is a great base runner and a great defender, but if he is as good of a hitter as they say and has the power to hit the ball out of the park every at bat, then that is just a waste of talent.
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post #92 of 102
9/25/10 at 12:39pm
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While he is no doubt a first ballot HOF player, there are faults in his game. All the time during his career you hear about how he can easily go out and hit home runs, but all he tries for is just to get on base it seems. Almost like he is playing for his own stats(to reach 200 hits) and not win games. Sure you can say his job as lead off hitter is to get on base, but when you have a offense as anemic as the M's have been over the last few seasons why the hell isn't he out there trying to swing for the fences? It just seems like this year especially he saw he knew he wasn't going to get any run support and kind of just gave up on winning and went out doing his little slap hits to get to 200. He is a great base runner and a great defender, but if he is as good of a hitter as they say and has the power to hit the ball out of the park every at bat, then that is just a waste of talent.

As with any other baseball player, hitting HR's in batting practice, and hitting home runs against a real live pitcher - trying to get the ball past you - are two different things. He can obviously help his team more by getting hits than he can by guessing on fastball, lowering his batting average, and taking himself off the base.
I'm not sure why you think this is a weakness.
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post #93 of 102
9/25/10 at 12:42pm
I had sex with Ichiro in a steamy locker room encounter after a game with the Yankees in '06. The lil guy is packin'!! Great gentleman after the fact as well. 5*
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post #94 of 102
9/25/10 at 1:01pm
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I had sex with Ichiro in a steamy locker room encounter after a game with the Yankees in '06. The lil guy is packin'!! Great gentleman after the fact as well. 5*

Did his wife make you one of her special riceballs afterwards?
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post #95 of 102
9/25/10 at 1:03pm
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Speaking of which, funny story:

During M's games trivia is shown up on the outfield screen for the M's players. It's usually pretty inane, but sometimes when Ichiro comes up to bat, the screen will say

"Ichiro's favorite food is rice"

That cracks me up.
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post #96 of 102
9/25/10 at 1:06pm
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Speaking of which, funny story: During M's games trivia is shown up on the outfield screen for the M's players. It's usually pretty inane, but sometimes when Ichiro comes up to bat, the screen will say "Ichiro's favorite food is rice" That cracks me up.
For the Mets, the hispanic players always have "rice and beans" as the answer.
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post #97 of 102
9/25/10 at 1:17pm
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For the Mets, the hispanic players always have "rice and beans" as the answer.

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post #98 of 102
9/26/10 at 9:25am
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While he is no doubt a first ballot HOF player, there are faults in his game. All the time during his career you hear about how he can easily go out and hit home runs, but all he tries for is just to get on base it seems. Almost like he is playing for his own stats(to reach 200 hits) and not win games. Sure you can say his job as lead off hitter is to get on base, but when you have a offense as anemic as the M's have been over the last few seasons why the hell isn't he out there trying to swing for the fences? It just seems like this year especially he saw he knew he wasn't going to get any run support and kind of just gave up on winning and went out doing his little slap hits to get to 200. He is a great base runner and a great defender, but if he is as good of a hitter as they say and has the power to hit the ball out of the park every at bat, then that is just a waste of talent.

IMO, you cannot overrate OBP as an offensive stat.
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post #99 of 102
9/26/10 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by airblaster503 View Post
While he is no doubt a first ballot HOF player, there are faults in his game. All the time during his career you hear about how he can easily go out and hit home runs, but all he tries for is just to get on base it seems. Almost like he is playing for his own stats(to reach 200 hits) and not win games. Sure you can say his job as lead off hitter is to get on base, but when you have a offense as anemic as the M's have been over the last few seasons why the hell isn't he out there trying to swing for the fences? It just seems like this year especially he saw he knew he wasn't going to get any run support and kind of just gave up on winning and went out doing his little slap hits to get to 200. He is a great base runner and a great defender, but if he is as good of a hitter as they say and has the power to hit the ball out of the park every at bat, then that is just a waste of talent.

He's still a lead off hitter, his job isn't to swing for the fences but to get on base. He does that, he steals bases and generally sets up scoring opportunies for the 3-4-5 guys. Now if your contention is correct and the M's offense is anemic then he would be trying to drive in the 7-8-9 hitters, and by their position in the batting order it would be safe to assume that even if he were to swing for the fences the opportunity for him to do it with these batters on would be few and far between.
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post #100 of 102
9/26/10 at 2:42pm
Slim, if you could conceive, would you have Ichiro's babies?
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post #101 of 102
9/26/10 at 2:49pm
last I checked you usually have to get on base to score. If there was anyone else on that team that could do that they'd win games
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post #102 of 102
9/26/10 at 3:21pm
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Slim, if you could conceive, would you have Ichiro's babies?

Probably.
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