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post #121 of 5101
Um, so? Your point?

I have a lmedium Gant shirt, a medium Lacoste polo, and a medium tennis sweater from the 1970s that all fit me like a large.
post #122 of 5101
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It does bug me how much we get derailed in these discussions over issues like quality control and sizing. Overall I think J. Crew does a fine job. It's really not as interesting as discussing the new things you're finding in the f/w 09 collection.
Do you work for J. Crew?
post #123 of 5101
Ha ha, no, not yet. But I'd love to be the token old man on the sales floor.
post #124 of 5101
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Ha ha, no, not yet. But I'd love to be the token old man on the sales floor.

you sure you aren't one of Jenna's spies...


jk
post #125 of 5101
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you sure you aren't one of Jenna's spies...


jk

I can neither confirm nor deny... .
post #126 of 5101
I have the camp shirt too, I have 3 total JCrew linen shirts (all the Baird McNutt Linen). Two regular button downs and the camp shirt in Cadet. I've noticed that all JCrew's linen shirts fit a bit bigger than their usual shirts. This is perfect for me because in their regular shirts a large is huge on me but a medium is usually a bit small.

I'm only 5'10" and I think that all the button downs are way too short. They're usually right at the waist on me after a couple of warm washes, I guess I should just start going cold.
post #127 of 5101
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So I just received my latest J Crew order and thought I'd share some notes. In the past I made the mistake of settling for pants that were off from the tagged size. This time I wanted to ensure the best possible fit so I did a test. I ordered some officer chino pants which were on sale in two different colors - olive green and khaki. I ordered a total of 6 pants - all of them size 34x34. Here are the measurements (the first 3 numbers are olive and the last 3 numbers khaki.)

Waist: 33, 33, 34, 34, 34.5, 34.5
Front rise: 11.5, 11.25, 11.25, 11.5, 11.25, 11.25
Hips: 45, 45, 45, 45, 45, 45.5
Thigh: 12.75, 12.75, 12.5, 12.5, 12.5, 12.25, 12.25, 12.75
Inseam: 34, 33.5, 33.75, 34.25, 33.75, 33.5
Leg opening: 8.5, 8.5, 8.75, 8.75, 8.5, 8.5
Back rise: 16.5, 17, 16.25, 17, 16.75, 17

So in summary the ranges are as follows:

Waist: 33-34.5 = 1.5 inches
Front rise: 11.25-11.5 = .25 inches
Hips: 45-45.5 = .5 inches
Thigh: 12.25-12.75 = .5 inches
Inseam: 33.5-34.25 = .75 inches
Leg opening: 8.5-8.75 = .25 inches
Back rise: 16.25-17 = .75 inches

The waist & inseam is the most important and what most people look at first. However, surprisingly the back rise showed some big variances which made a remarkable difference in appearance. I confirmed this by wearing the lowest and highest back rise pants. The first one hugged my buns nicely, while the 17 inch back rise made my ass look as baggy as a Texas truck driver. The hips and leg opening were all very consistent. The next most important thing to pay attention to was the thighs which had a decent amount of variance especially considering the small amount of space in that area.

In conclusion out of the 6 pairs of pants I found an olive pair that fit me perfect and a khaki pair that looked good but not perfect. The others were wearable but this time I'm not settling so they are going back. The whole point is that it confirmed my suspicion that J Crew's sizing is not consistant so you have to order several pairs to get the right fit.

Also, I picked up a pair of 34x34 officer chino shorts in khaki and the waist came to 35.5 which is way bigger than any of the pant measurements - go figure.

This is why when I try on pants, I always try to find 3 pair in the same size. QC is not reliable!
post #128 of 5101
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Yeah, I don't know how they do that. I strongly suspect photoshopping in many cases. I've noticed that if I stuffed my hands in my pockets the way these models do, the waist of my pants would be at my ball sack. That or these guys have deformed torsos. I mean, look at the proportions, for example, the number of "heads" that fit into the guys torso. As any figure drawing instructor would tell you, that's just not right.


Amen to that! I alwaysthough the exact same thing. Its the male "barbie effect"
post #129 of 5101
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Originally Posted by bye4now122 View Post
I have the camp shirt too, I have 3 total JCrew linen shirts (all the Baird McNutt Linen). Two regular button downs and the camp shirt in Cadet. I've noticed that all JCrew's linen shirts fit a bit bigger than their usual shirts. This is perfect for me because in their regular shirts a large is huge on me but a medium is usually a bit small.

I'm only 5'10" and I think that all the button downs are way too short. They're usually right at the waist on me after a couple of warm washes, I guess I should just start going cold.
Also to add to that, I recently tried on the "surplus chino" in white in store. It fit me perfectly, but I wasn't feeling the white. Then I ordered the khaki officer's chinos online, same size, and they came in pretty small, I'd even say they have a smaller thigh and seat than all of the classic fit chinos I have (which is quite a lot). I haven't taken any measurements yet, but might just out of curiosity for myself.
post #130 of 5101
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This is why when I try on pants, I always try to find 3 pair in the same size. QC is not reliable!

I'll do that (though usually only with 2) if I'm not sure how they're supposed to fit.
post #131 of 5101
Those grey jeans in Jake Davis' look-book photos look like a perfect shade....or at least they seem so in the picture (but we know all about the photoshopping they seem to do). I haven't been too impressed with their colored jeans the past few seasons. None of them even tempted me, besides the off-white.

+1 on the Officer Premium Chinos. Man, I love these, especially for $32 last week. These are gonna be my fall faves, no doubt. Had to splurge for 3 colors.
post #132 of 5101
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Amen to that! I alwaysthough the exact same thing. Its the male "barbie effect"

They have it down to an art. I used to think it was just the model's physique but then I realized the proportions just were not humanly possible. The segment on Sunday Morning confirmed this for me. That's why now I always take the idealized fit of the clothes on the models with a big grain of salt.
post #133 of 5101
Looks like they've slashed the sale price an additional 20% off and you get free shipping for orders over 150. Time to buy some more crap, I guess. Wondering how long until it's 30% off, though.
post #134 of 5101
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Um, so? Your point?

I have a lmedium Gant shirt, a medium Lacoste polo, and a medium tennis sweater from the 1970s that all fit me like a large.
sometimes their sizing is fucked.
post #135 of 5101
It happens.
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