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post #31 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dmax
Which weapon are you guys talking about? Die Hard was very long time ago. I faintly remember a Beretta 92F and a bunch of Mp-5K.
The H&K P7M13 and other P series, as pictured above.
post #32 of 52
As per the initial question, I am completely torn. I am unafraid of guns and weapons (my father would go hunting religiously every season back home - not rifles but over/under shotguns) and had spent two years in the army as a conscript. I even practice two sword related martial arts (albeit not with live blades). Would I collect guns? Well, yes and no. I severely dislike a lot of the common attitudes of "badassery" that seem to permeate the whole pro-gun lobby in the US. Gives me a feeling of disrespect towards the seriousness of a weapon for one (especially handguns and rifles, things designed to take out human beings). Now on the other hand, this is the sort of stuff that would appeal to someone like myself that has such a strong interest in history. Hell, if I could afford it I would probably have several nihonto, late 19th century bayonets etc etc. Plus I was a reasonably good shot with the assault rifles (and using the heavier stuff like LMGs can be a blast ). Shooting the stuff can definitely be entertaining. But I resist that due to my principles on the issue. Anyway, I am still a reserve; if I end up home permanently in the next few years I am sure I will get my fix of assault rifles (and probably go skeet-shooting with my dad). P.s. an Stg 44 and a PPSh-41 would both be things I would have owned if I were to collect, I must say - mainly for historical reasons. Anyway, that is my take on it P.s. grenades can also be a blast (pun intended) Edit: Sorry if I went off-topic there.
post #33 of 52
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Originally Posted by skalogre
As per the initial question, I am completely torn. I am unafraid of guns and weapons (my father would go hunting religiously every season back home - not rifles but over/under shotguns) and had spent two years in the army as a conscript. I even practice two sword related martial arts (albeit not with live blades).
Would I collect guns? Well, yes and no. I severely dislike a lot of the common attitudes of "badassery" that seem to permeate the whole pro-gun lobby in the US. Gives me a feeling of disrespect towards the seriousness of a weapon for one (especially handguns and rifles, things designed to take out human beings). Now on the other hand, this is the sort of stuff that would appeal to someone like myself that has such a strong interest in history.
Hell, if I could afford it I would probably have several nihonto, late 19th century bayonets etc etc. Plus I was a reasonably good shot with the assault rifles (and using the heavier stuff like LMGs can be a blast ). Shooting the stuff can definitely be entertaining. But I resist that due to my principles on the issue. Anyway, I am still a reserve; if I end up home permanently in the next few years I am sure I will get my fix of assault rifles (and probably go skeet-shooting with my dad).
P.s. an Stg 44 and a PPSh-41 would both be things I would have owned if I were to collect, I must say - mainly for historical reasons.

Anyway, that is my take on it

P.s. grenades can also be a blast (pun intended)

Edit:
Sorry if I went off-topic there.

we got to get together for a beer some day.
post #34 of 52
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Originally Posted by j
The H&K P7M13 and other P series, as pictured above.


I thought P7M13 was the double stack version. The .40 cal version was not available in double stack design due to size considerations I guess.
post #35 of 52
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Originally Posted by skalogre
As per the initial question, I am completely torn. I am unafraid of guns and weapons (my father would go hunting religiously every season back home - not rifles but over/under shotguns) and had spent two years in the army as a conscript. I even practice two sword related martial arts (albeit not with live blades).
Would I collect guns? Well, yes and no. I severely dislike a lot of the common attitudes of "badassery" that seem to permeate the whole pro-gun lobby in the US. Gives me a feeling of disrespect towards the seriousness of a weapon for one (especially handguns and rifles, things designed to take out human beings). Now on the other hand, this is the sort of stuff that would appeal to someone like myself that has such a strong interest in history.
Hell, if I could afford it I would probably have several nihonto, late 19th century bayonets etc etc. Plus I was a reasonably good shot with the assault rifles (and using the heavier stuff like LMGs can be a blast ). Shooting the stuff can definitely be entertaining. But I resist that due to my principles on the issue. Anyway, I am still a reserve; if I end up home permanently in the next few years I am sure I will get my fix of assault rifles (and probably go skeet-shooting with my dad).
P.s. an Stg 44 and a PPSh-41 would both be things I would have owned if I were to collect, I must say - mainly for historical reasons.

Anyway, that is my take on it

P.s. grenades can also be a blast (pun intended)

Edit:
Sorry if I went off-topic there.

I am bit confused, your location shows you are in Arizona, did you server in the US Army?
post #36 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dmax
I thought P7M13 was the double stack version. The .40 cal version was not available in double stack design due to size considerations I guess.
Oh, you're right. Well I feel dumb.
post #37 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dmax
I am bit confused, your location shows you are in Arizona, did you server in the US Army?
No. I am not from the USA - my wife is from here, I am from Cyprus. Compulsory two year service for all males over 18. Globetrotter: I'd love that, seeing as we are from the same general area of the mediterrannean and all Edit: Love the avatar Zack! I always forget that actor's name though
post #38 of 52
Cool, so you probably had H&K G3 assault rifle issued to you.

As far as PPSh and STG44 you would probably have beter luck geting those in Cyprus. I have never seen STG 44 for sale in the US. I think I migth have seen a PPSh for sale once for around $15,000. And there is of course a bunch of paperwork involved in transferring NFA controlled weapon.

I did see a picture of a bunch of STG 44 clones captured recently in Iraq. I believe they were made in Syria.

Dimitry
post #39 of 52
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Originally Posted by Dmax
Cool, so you probably had H&K G3 assault rifle issued to you.

As far as PPSh and STG44 you would probably have beter luck geting those in Cyprus. I have never seen STG 44 for sale in the US. I think I migth have seen a PPSh for sale once for around $15,000. And there is of course a bunch of paperwork involved in transferring NFA controlled weapon.

I did see a picture of a bunch of STG 44 clones captured recently in Iraq. I believe they were made in Syria.

Dimitry

Don't think there is anyway I would be able to get any sort of firearm other than a hunting shotgun back home - civilians cannot own such stuff. The G3 is great though - a little large and old-fashioned/boring looking but powerful, accurate and reliable. Hate the bayonet though, such a POS. Now, the AK-47 style bayonets, now we are talking.
Do you have a link to that picture of Stg clones you mentioned?
post #40 of 52
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Originally Posted by skalogre
No. I am not from the USA - my wife is from here, I am from Cyprus. Compulsory two year service for all males over 18.

Globetrotter:
I'd love that, seeing as we are from the same general area of the mediterrannean and all

Edit:
Love the avatar Zack! I always forget that actor's name though


thanks - seiji miyaguchi. I was looking for a picture of him sitting under the tree waiting to kill the two bandits on thier way to their horses, but I couldn't find it. this was the next best thing.
post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
thanks - seiji miyaguchi. I was looking for a picture of him sitting under the tree waiting to kill the two bandits on thier way to their horses, but I couldn't find it. this was the next best thing.
That is sucha priceless scene. Maybe I should try getting a screencap from my Shichinin no Samurai dvd of that.
post #42 of 52
The captured Stg44 picture is in one of my gun magazines at home.

Here is another STg44 picture for your viewing enjoyment:

Clik for larger version.

post #43 of 52
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Originally Posted by skalogre
That is sucha priceless scene. Maybe I should try getting a screencap from my Shichinin no Samurai dvd of that.

yeah, isn't that just about the best scene in "guy movie" history? I wasn't able to figure out how to capture the picture on my computer from the DVD.
post #44 of 52
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Originally Posted by skalogre
The G3 is great though - a little large and old-fashioned/boring looking but powerful, accurate and reliable. Hate the bayonet though, such a POS. Now, the AK-47 style bayonets, now we are talking.

I have to agree on every point - particularly about the bayonet, if it's anything like this knife bayonet,which is used by the Norwegian army:

http://www.holmback.se/bayonets/pics/Norway/m1968_1.jpg
post #45 of 52
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Originally Posted by Lucky Strike
I have to agree on every point - particularly about the bayonet, if it's anything like this knife bayonet,which is used by the Norwegian army:

http://www.holmback.se/bayonets/pics/Norway/m1968_1.jpg
Blech, that looks awfully familiar. I doubt that would be useful for even cutting soup, lol, never mind combat.
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