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post #1 of 52
Thread Starter 
Not to get too tradly here, but my lack of enthusiasm for cars (perhaps because mine's so shitty) has given me the need to remasculate myself

Anyone else collect/shoot/compete/hunt?

I just (through the technical conduit of my dad) bought an old Enfield No. 4 MkI. Stripping the cosmoline, cleaning, and restoring was a fun little project. I have yet to shoot her, but I see some more milsurp purchases in my near future.
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post #3 of 52
I've never touched a gun in my life.
post #4 of 52
Shooting is fun, but hunting is too miserable for my tastes. I have no desire to stand in the cold all day to kill some poor animal, then remove its innards and chop its bloody carcass into bits.
post #5 of 52
Thread Starter 
I didn't intend a parenthetical jab at Freudian cliche to start an ideological debate. There are arguments for and against civilian gun ownership, and frankly I've run through them on various fora more times than it interests me to.

This thread was meant as a discussion about the weapons/tools/artifacts (however you like it) themselves, really from a collection point of view.
post #6 of 52
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday
Shooting is fun, but hunting is too miserable for my tastes. I have no desire to stand in the cold all day to kill some poor animal, then remove its innards and chop its bloody carcass into bits.
Honsetly nor do I. Upland shooting is fun, but I really don't have the patience for deer and such, nor does killing mammals do all that much for me. Eating them, however...

Not that I have anything against it in principal. Not exactly unnatural, nature red in tooth and claw and all that.
post #7 of 52
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday
Shooting is fun, but hunting is too miserable for my tastes. I have no desire to stand in the cold all day to kill some poor animal, then remove its innards and chop its bloody carcass into bits.
What do you think about fishing?
post #8 of 52
Despite my snarky reply on the other thread, I do have some experience with firearms. I used to do a fair amount of range shooting (not very much with handguns). I enjoyed the activity, and I was halfway decent at it. Hunting isn't for me, but I don't have a problem with it as long as the hunters take appropriate safety precautions and don't hunt for anything on the endangered species list or which is otherwise illegal. I also have more respect for hunters who actually eat what they kill.
post #9 of 52
I have nothing against hunting. if I had a few people to hunt with that I trusted, I would hunt (I was all set to go hunting with cheney, and then he blew it).

As I stated, about 700 times, on AAAC in the thread I linked, I don't like the idea of a firearm as a collectable or as an object of art. stating it that way is the most gentle, least insulting way I can say it. I actually have, surpisingly enough, rather strong feelings about it.
post #10 of 52
Firearms are appropriate in a Checkov play.
post #11 of 52
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
I have nothing against hunting. if I had a few people to hunt with that I trusted, I would hunt (I was all set to go hunting with cheney, and then he blew it).

As I stated, about 700 times, on AAAC in the thread I linked, I don't like the idea of a firearm as a collectable or as an object of art. stating it that way is the most gentle, least insulting way I can say it. I actually have, surpisingly enough, rather strong feelings about it.
Do you extend that to people who collect Henrys or Brown Bess Muskets?
post #12 of 52
I shoot a lot. I don't hunt, however. I don't see the fun in killing wild animals. I would rather take pictures of them.
I own a few guns: 2 pistols, a carbine, a rifle, and a shotgun.


As for guns as collectibles, I can't think of any modern firearms that I would buy for their beauty or asthetic properties (except, maybe, a gyrojet pistol, just because it's so unique.) However, some antique weapons, (particularly handmade 18th century flintlocks) are beautiful examples of the craftsman's art. I would love to own one.
post #13 of 52
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
Do you extend that to people who collect Henrys or Brown Bess Muskets?

Or something like this:



Ex-Nepalese Army Martini-Henry Mk IV, BTW:

post #14 of 52
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Originally Posted by Kai
However, some antique weapons, (particularly handmade 18th century flintlocks) are beautiful examples of the craftsman's art. I would love to own one.

Viz.:





post #15 of 52
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
Do you extend that to people who collect Henrys or Brown Bess Muskets?


let me tell you this, I have a half smile on my face now, because that is a good question. I honestly have to say that there are some very fantastic pre-industrial or early industrial weapons out there. there are also a hell of a lot of weapons - like the brown bess, like the springfield rifled musket, like the Garand, that have had such an important part of history that they are very deserving collectors items.

I am still torn about it.

I have gone over this many many times on these boards, and in discussions. I am really of the opinion that we shouldn't glorify weapons. I would like to say that that is a hard fast unchangable rule, but it isn't. if you offered me a english lowgbow arrow head from the 14th century, I would pounce on it, for the historic value. from that, it is easy to reach an M-1 Garand, so it is hard for me to be totally unequivicably tied down to my position.

does that make sense?
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