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post #46 of 65
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
Nobody tends to entirely villianize Stalin
You what?! Nobody?!
post #47 of 65
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Nick M
You what?! Nobody?!
The reaction when talking positively about Hitler and talking positively about Stalin is entirely different.
post #48 of 65
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Also your question about the Spanish Royal Family is that the portrait shows the impotent King Charles IV painted in an idiotic light while the real power behind the throne was the equally unattractively painted Queen Maria Luisa.

I think there is something there, a honey in that lion.
post #49 of 65
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
The reaction when talking positively about Hitler and talking positively about Stalin is entirely different.
Who do you associate with that talks positively about Hitler and positively about Stalin?
post #50 of 65
Hitler and Stalin are regarded very differently. Speaking positively of the former may land one in prison for a considerable length of time in many countries.
post #51 of 65
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Originally Posted by whoopee
Hitler and Stalin are regarded very different.
In the 'both killed millions of people' sense?

That's not what I'm disputing - I'm disputing LK's assertion that no-one villainizes Stalin. And my question was, who do you associate with that speaks of these men positively?





And now I'm orf t'work!
post #52 of 65
[quote=LabelKing]Yes, I think that the end result had some of its foundationary elements in the Italian Futurist dogmas and such although it was really the Teutonic tradition that is to blame in a majority sense for the WWII genocides.

King Ludwig is to blame partially because of that romantic highly Germanic Wagnerian aura that rose up after his arguably romantic death. The Germanic are notoriously sentimental.

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I would agree.

on another note, I am always fascinated with the breadth of some of your knowledge, LK. thanks for sharing.
post #53 of 65
Relative to Hitler, it's not far from the truth. Both are among the worst human beings to have ever lived. But it's not like they never accomplished or said anything good. Yet I'm much more able to say so about Stalin than I am about Hitler.
post #54 of 65
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Originally Posted by Nick M
In the 'both killed millions of people' sense? That's not what I'm disputing - I'm disputing LK's assertion that no-one villainizes Stalin. And my question was, who do you associate with that speaks of these men positively? And now I'm orf t'work!
I'm not saying nobody villianizes Stalin; rather, that when people discuss Stalin the relative context is different than when discussing Hitler. The latter inevitabley is (almost) always negative while the former is more or less. Of course, I don't hang about Neo-Nazis and such but there are people who would want a Stalin like figure back in Russia as there some people who want a Hitler type figure. Yet the negative aspects almost always lies with the Hitler pact while Stalinists are regarded as nostaglic or some other mawkish sentiment. Then one can also bring into discussion Mao who is another one of those curiously canonized figures of the 20th century.
post #55 of 65
I have heard that the Muslim Brotherhood are now 'carrying the torch' for fascism, or its equivalent. i wonder if any of them are dandies?

i'm guessing they don't share d'annunzio's sense of hedonistic spectacle, anyway.
post #56 of 65
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
Relative to Hitler, it's not far from the truth. Both are among the worst human beings to have ever lived. But it's not like they never accomplished or said anything good. Yet I'm much more able to say so about Stalin than I am about Hitler.
How so?
post #57 of 65
LK - Of course, your point is valid. But simply to avoid confusion and unnecessary back-and-forth, if you think

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Originally Posted by LabelKing
I'm not saying nobody villianizes Stalin
then please don't say

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Originally Posted by Labelking
Nobody tends to entirely villianize Stalin
Befuddles my poor brain.
post #58 of 65
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Originally Posted by faustian bargain
I have heard that the Muslim Brotherhood are now 'carrying the torch' for fascism, or its equivalent. i wonder if any of them are dandies?

i'm guessing they don't share d'annunzio's sense of hedonistic spectacle, anyway.

I don't think that they are all that into dress and grooming. although, I ahve to say that some men in the arab world are fanatical about the quality of theiir dress - you see some guys who change those white robes twice a day to keep themselves crisp. and some Arab men wear a type of cape in the winter - I have seen those in beutiful cashmere and lined in dessert cat fur.
post #59 of 65
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Originally Posted by globetrotter
I don't think that they are all that into dress and grooming. although, I ahve to say that some men in the arab world are fanatical about the quality of theiir dress - you see some guys who change those white robes twice a day to keep themselves crisp. and some Arab men wear a type of cape in the winter - I have seen those in beutiful cashmere and lined in dessert cat fur.

It's what you don't see--the suit underneath.
post #60 of 65
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Originally Posted by johnapril
It's what you don't see--the suit underneath.


serious? I dont know about you, but I honestly don't think that most of the gulf arabs I know wore anyting under their dish-dash. but I never really felt like checking....
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