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post #16 of 26
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Originally Posted by bbaquiran View Post
It seems my prominent collarbones get in the way of the rack position in power cleans. I end up with pain and nasty bruising there whenever I try them. Is there any way around this?

I might try to learn the snatch instead. Is it much more difficult than cleans?

bbaq,

Don't worry, you'll get used it. O-lifts are all about progressively teaching yourself to handle larger weights. I remember ridiculous bruising from the first couple of times, but eventually you learn to handle it better and get used to it. To this day, I still get red marks after a heavy power-cleaning session.

Just to make sure, the bar isn't bouncing off of your collarbone is it? You should dip just enough to accommodate the load. Also, I wouldn't recommend learning the snatch if you haven't yet mastered the powerclean/clean. It's much more complicated in nature and pretty much requires that you can do the powerclean.

If you're not doing snatches for o-lifting purposes and moreso for the benefits that it provides, I'd suggest doing dumbbell snatches. They build the same explosive/athletic qualities, but don't require nearly as much technique.
post #17 of 26
Thanks. I'll keep at it. I want to do them as part of the Starting Strength program.
post #18 of 26
[quote=dimshum;2240076]bbaq,

Don't worry, you'll get used it. O-lifts are all about progressively teaching yourself to handle larger weights. I remember ridiculous bruising from the first couple of times, but eventually you learn to handle it better and get used to it. To this day, I still get red marks after a heavy power-cleaning session.

Just to make sure, the bar isn't bouncing off of your collarbone is it? You should dip just enough to accommodate the load. Also, I wouldn't recommend learning the snatch if you haven't yet mastered the powerclean/clean. It's much more complicated in nature and pretty much requires that you can do the powerclean.

If you're not doing snatches for o-lifting purposes and moreso for the benefits that it provides, I'd suggest doing dumbbell snatches. They build the same explosive/athletic qualities, but don't require nearly as much technique.[/QUOTE]

Great advice.
post #19 of 26
If the bar touches is touching your collarbone, you'll need to develop elbow flexibility (yes, the joint) as well as learn to pull the shoulder forward more.

For elbow flexibility, just put two plates on the barbell and hold the barbell in the catch of the clean (ie. across the shoulders). Hold it until your elbows feel stretched and start to hurt a bit, then re-rack the barbell. Wait a little bit, do it again. Wait a little bit, do it again. Do this each time you lift until you have the flexibility.
post #20 of 26
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Oops, forgot to include the website: www.performancemenu.com The forums are also a great o-lifting resource.
Thanks for the link to the website. I've been looking for O-lifting gym and Sunnyvale is close enough to where I live. Edit: holy crap that place is expensive!
post #21 of 26
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Thanks for the link to the website. I've been looking for O-lifting gym and Sunnyvale is close enough to where I live.

Edit: holy crap that place is expensive!

They're an off-shoot of Crossfit. They seemed to like the strength aspect more and specialize in O-lifting.
post #22 of 26
The best book I've found is Olympic Weightlifting: A Complete Guide for Athletes & Coaches by Greg Everett which can be found here http://www.performancemenu.com/zen/i...73ce46c82dc751. Also, generally the snatch is the first lift taught because it is easier in concept than the clean and jerk and from my experience there are many many many more little nuisances to the C&J than the snatch. Also snatch is good for helping develop balance, explosion and flexibility in the bottom. You can only go so far without a coach; I worked on my own for 5 years and then I went to Oklahoma and got USAW certified with Coach Cross and there were so many little things that I was missing that they showed me. It also helps to have someone watch you even if they aren't as knowledgeable as an actual coach, because they can point out glaring mistakes in your lift.

As far as bruising/redness on the collarbones, without watching you lift I can't really say but usually it comes from letting the bar crash down on you which can come from a whole plethora of mistakes which can range from the 1st pull to the 3rd.
post #23 of 26
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As far as bruising/redness on the collarbones, without watching you lift I can't really say but usually it comes from letting the bar crash down on you which can come from a whole plethora of mistakes which can range from the 1st pull to the 3rd.

I have prominent collarbones, and get bruising there even with front squats.

I'll keep at it. Thanks guys.
post #24 of 26
Another Oly lifter here. Actually a CrossFitter (Level 1 certified trainer and affiliate owner) and intermediate Oly lifter.

+1 to performance menu and the book "Olympic Weightlifting".

I was fortunate enough to have the chance to learn the fast lifts from a former Olympian, but I have been training with my business partner and a video camera for the last year and a half or so. If you haven't seen yourself lift on film, I highly recommend it.


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thanks why



I have prominent collarbones, and get bruising there even with front squats.

I'll keep at it. Thanks guys.

Get those elbows up. The higher you can get them, the bigger your Deltoid shelf will be.
post #25 of 26
This was cool. An oly lifter does crossfit.
post #26 of 26
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Originally Posted by bbaquiran View Post
thanks why



I have prominent collarbones, and get bruising there even with front squats.

I'll keep at it. Thanks guys.

Keep at it. I have prominent collarbones too and used to get huge purple bruises there after doing power cleans. I've noticed I don't anymore. This either means my form is a lot better or that area became more resilient. I like to think it's the latter since that's more badass.
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