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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

there was a song on the radio a few weeks ago (traveling, rental car, no iPod plug in adapter), and the lyrics were shockingly awful. It was a classical guitar balad that i'm assuming is meant to be a heart-jerking love song, but the words were so poorly put together, it was embarrasing. In my head, I seem to remember the person rhyming "love me" with "pastries", even though I know it probably wasn't that bad. But they still rhymed something with pastries.

I think Phoebe Buffay wrote that song.
post #7337 of 14080
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Originally Posted by Master Milano View Post

when the hell did people start using the term "self-starter"???
1927?
post #7338 of 14080
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

there was a song on the radio a few weeks ago (traveling, rental car, no iPod plug in adapter), and the lyrics were shockingly awful. It was a classical guitar balad that i'm assuming is meant to be a heart-jerking love song, but the words were so poorly put together, it was embarrasing. In my head, I seem to remember the person rhyming "love me" with "pastries", even though I know it probably wasn't that bad. But they still rhymed something with pastries.

I wonder if you're talking about Ed Sheeran's "A Team," which is a song about a crack whore. That's the only recent song I can think of that mentions pastries.
post #7339 of 14080
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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

I wonder if you're talking about Ed Sheeran's "A Team," which is a song about a crack whore. That's the only recent song I can think of that mentions pastries.

Can't be ..

It is a great song.
post #7340 of 14080
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Originally Posted by VaderDave View Post

I wonder if you're talking about Ed Sheeran's "A Team," which is a song about a crack whore. That's the only recent song I can think of that mentions pastries.

Can't be ..

It is a great song.
post #7341 of 14080
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Originally Posted by lawyerdad View Post

1927?

According to google n-gram (which measures historic usage by pulling from old book texts), 1892. Hit a big peak in 1920, absolute peak in 1944, and balanced out to about the current level of usage, about half of what it was at its peak, around 1960.
post #7342 of 14080
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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

According to google n-gram (which measures historic usage by pulling from old book texts), 1892. Hit a big peak in 1920, absolute peak in 1944, and balanced out to about the current level of usage, about half of what it was at its peak, around 1960.

That's a pretty nifty tool, you can get some interesting insights into lots of word usage from it. Like, why did IBM spike massively in the early 1800s and then fade away until ~1940? The word "Patriots" has been in steady decline, constitutionalist boomed in the 1910's/20s and faded until the 70s, nuclear follows an arc that peaks around the TMI event, gravistas was actually around all the way back in the 1800s and then took off in the 1980s, why did "Monica" boom in the 50s?, gaga peaked in the 30s, google was in use in the 1900's, etc.

I see myself wasting a lot of time fiddling with it over the next few days...thanks for sharing!
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Originally Posted by razl View Post

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Originally Posted by cptjeff View Post

According to google n-gram (which measures historic usage by pulling from old book texts), 1892. Hit a big peak in 1920, absolute peak in 1944, and balanced out to about the current level of usage, about half of what it was at its peak, around 1960.

That's a pretty nifty tool, you can get some interesting insights into lots of word usage from it. Like, why did IBM spike massively in the early 1800s and then fade away until ~1940? The word "Patriots" has been in steady decline, constitutionalist boomed in the 1910's/20s and faded until the 70s, nuclear follows an arc that peaks around the TMI event, gravistas was actually around all the way back in the 1800s and then took off in the 1980s, why did "Monica" boom in the 50s?, gaga peaked in the 30s, google was in use in the 1900's, etc.

I see myself wasting a lot of time fiddling with it over the next few days...thanks for sharing!

You must be an intalektyuwal I only plugged swear words into it.

Interestingly the use of "cunt" has remained much more stable than "fuck" which almost died in the 1820s ~ 1950s, and there were lots of "cock suckers" in the 1930s and 1970s. Also there are several decades with no "wankers", but they have boomed since Internet porn became freely available.
post #7344 of 14080
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

You must be an intalektyuwal I only plugged swear words into it.

Interestingly the use of "cunt" has remained much more stable than "fuck" which almost died in the 1820s ~ 1950s, and there were lots of "cock suckers" in the 1930s and 1970s. Also there are several decades with no "wankers", but they have boomed since Internet porn became freely available.

Actually I found racial words to be more interesting. The dreaded "n-word" seems to ebb and flow, with high points in the late 1850s/early 1860s, the 30s, and the late 60s/early 70s.

The word shemale is interesting because it was apparently fairly common in stereotypical "dialect" writing (mostly making fun of blacks, but also foreigners at times) for people who are trying to say "female" and so had a peak in the mid 19th century when assholes liked to write that shit. I ended up finding a book of humor written by university students in 1860, and those frat boys were all about the funny negro dialect.
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

I only plugged swear words into it.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Actually I found racial words to be more interesting.

Google being Google, I suspect their analyzing what we're searching for. A look at that would interesting too; games within games...
post #7346 of 14080
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

You must be an intalektyuwal

Please don't denigrate me like that; I have never set foot in an institution of (cough) "higher learning" and, Lord willin', never will.

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post #7347 of 14080
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Actually I found racial words to be more interesting. The dreaded "n-word" seems to ebb and flow, with high points in the late 1850s/early 1860s, the 30s, and the late 60s/early 70s.

The word shemale is interesting because it was apparently fairly common in stereotypical "dialect" writing (mostly making fun of blacks, but also foreigners at times) for people who are trying to say "female" and so had a peak in the mid 19th century when assholes liked to write that shit. I ended up finding a book of humor written by university students in 1860, and those frat boys were all about the funny negro dialect.

When my father was learning English in Taiwan (mid to late 1960s as junior high, or mid 70s as college students), the "n-word" was being taught as the correct and respectable way to address African American. It was not in the curriculum, it was asked by the students to know what's the appropriate way to address someone. No idea where they got the idea, but It's probably a combination of US serviceman (until 1979) and English teacher/Professor who had gone to the US to study from 20s to 60s.
post #7348 of 14080
also, the word "cocksucker" appears basically nowhere other than court records until the 1950s.

And if you look at the word "fuck", the oldest uses don't seem to have anything to do with our current usage. In fact, at least some of them appear to me misreadings of old-timey letters, where "such" can look like "fuck"
post #7349 of 14080
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Originally Posted by clee1982 View Post

When my father was learning English in Taiwan (mid to late 1960s as junior high, or mid 70s as college students), the "n-word" was being taught as the correct and respectable way to address African American.

This might explain why predominately African American rioting targets Asian businesses (OJ, Rodney King, LA Clippers... [/some snark]).
post #7350 of 14080
Why parents don't teach their children how to deal with dogs.

I daily have to explain to children that they can't just run up from behind and start groping the dog, they need to let it sniff their hand first etc.

Also if you are afraid of dogs don't start running, it WILL run after you as it thinks it's a game.
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