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post #6736 of 15125
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I still don't get it, what is it with checks/cheques? Please join the second half of the 20th century.

the bigger the better muther fucker!


I make an exception for gigantic cheques.
post #6737 of 15125
I dunno...They seem so robust.

With nothing more than a pen, I can use a check to give you any sum of money.

I don't need a computer or a phone, I don't have to have that exact sum of money in bills and coins, we don't have to have any third party present at the transaction. I wish there were something better for day to day use, but the check is kind of a cool thing.

For most everything else, we just use credit/debit cards....a lot of hotels in europe like to take deposits/payment by bank/wire transfer (or they ask for you to *email* the credit card info which is absurd and I don't think is even allowed in the US). This seems odd and backwards too me. It is a business transaction so why forgo all of the convenience and protections of a credit card? Wire transfers require knowledge of account numbers which can be a pain (I have to know mine, or I have to be able to enter yours somewhere), and they lack all of the consumer protections of a credit card...
post #6738 of 15125
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I dunno...They seem so robust.

With nothing more than a pen, I can use a check to give you any sum of money.

I don't need a computer or a phone, I don't have to have that exact sum of money in bills and coins, we don't have to have any third party present at the transaction. I wish there were something better for day to day use, but the check is kind of a cool thing.

For most everything else, we just use credit/debit cards....a lot of hotels in europe like to take deposits/payment by bank/wire transfer (or they ask for you to *email* the credit card info which is absurd and I don't think is even allowed in the US). This seems odd and backwards too me. It is a business transaction so why forgo all of the convenience and protections of a credit card? Wire transfers require knowledge of account numbers which can be a pain (I have to know mine, or I have to be able to enter yours somewhere), and they lack all of the consumer protections of a credit card...

Because most people don't have or use credit cards in Europe and electronic payments at merchants are usually done via debit using bank cards. Since the banking system is different, US accounts need to be processed via manual wire transfer. A lot of places take credit cards, but I imagine hotels/restaurants often don't for fraud reasons. If someone uses a fraudulent credit card it can be impossible for the merchant to collect what they're owed from the overseas bank.

I personally hate the 'consumer' protections a lot of US credit card companies use. I've had numerous occasions where they stop payment even though they've been instructed not to. Last time it happened I almost had to pay for an entirely new airfare. It's certainly not for my protection since it's mostly their liability due to legal and contractual restrictions, yet I seem to be the one who often has to deal with the messes created by their incompetence.
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I don't get why someone would want to pretend that they're Canadian, but I completely get why someone would pretend that they're not American
post #6741 of 15125
If you are an average American, is there any other nationality you could get away with? Don't have the teeth to be British and aren't cool enough to be Australian.

When my dad backpacked through Europe in the 70s, he had a danish flag sewn on his pack...but his parents came from Denmark and he could speak some of the language. Sounded like it was good to be travelling as something non-american back then.
post #6742 of 15125
I read that earlier, and I couldn't figure out if it was supposed to be satire or not. I didn't ponder it long, however, given it fails either way.

Also, I could definitely do the poutine thing, but my cover would be blown as soon as I graciously democratized my hosts.
post #6743 of 15125
This is just pop psychology on my part but here's my take on this: it's self selection in action. The type of American that is likely to backpack in Europe is also the type of American that is also likely to be ashamed to be American because America is so powerful. Basically, more liberal/lefty/flower child/crunchy granola types are both more likely to backpack across Europe and not like US foreign policy so this creates the whole pretending not to be American abroad thing. I'm willing to bet if some creationist Republican kids when backpacking through Europe they would be plastered in Old Glory.

Just a thought.
post #6744 of 15125
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

This is just pop psychology on my part but here's my take on this: it's self selection in action. The type of American that is likely to backpack in Europe is also the type of American that is also likely to be ashamed to be American because America is so powerful. Basically, more liberal/lefty/flower child/crunchy granola types are both more likely to backpack across Europe and not like US foreign policy so this creates the whole pretending not to be American abroad thing. I'm willing to bet if some creationist Republican kids when backpacking through Europe they would be plastered in Old Glory.

Just a thought.

Probably not that those guys don't travel...just they do and look for different things. If you go to Prague, the dude plastered in american flags might be hanging out with the chavs who have come down for a stag party in an irish pub. Those guys are probably having a great time being the token american with their new drinking buddies. The american-pretenders are probably doing something else.

Although I dunno. I certainly didn't pretend not to be american, and I don't think it matters much to the actual people you meet and hang out with. When you are actually eating with people you meet, they recognize that everyone is different and aren't going to stereotype based on your nationality. I think the only real reason to fake it is more to avoid theft/overcharging and stereotyping from service personnel.

If you are ever so far into the process that you are having to remember canadian holidays and customs, you are past the point where you derive any real benefit from pretending you are canadian. If anything, the people who are ashamed of america should be opening up to the people that they actually have extended conversations with and showing them how their thoughts differ from the stereotypes.
post #6745 of 15125
To the AZN americans, don't pretend you are chinese
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Weighing in from Thailand, Katy Khan voiced a similar sentiment: "Here in Thailand it's a big deal. They can't stand Chinese tourists and are complaining to the government about it. It's pretty bad. Chinese people are quite rude compared to any other culture I've ever experienced."

AZN-canucks too
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Wrote ptran281: "As a Canadian born to Chinese parents.... I can say I can't stand Chinese tourists! There is such a thing called lining up and waiting your turn. I was called a fake Chinese when I reminded them we don't behave like this in Canada."
post #6746 of 15125
I just noticed that otc's chicken avatar has a Santa hat
post #6747 of 15125
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

This is just pop psychology on my part but here's my take on this: it's self selection in action. The type of American that is likely to backpack in Europe is also the type of American that is also likely to be ashamed to be American because America is so powerful. Basically, more liberal/lefty/flower child/crunchy granola types are both more likely to backpack across Europe and not like US foreign policy so this creates the whole pretending not to be American abroad thing. I'm willing to bet if some creationist Republican kids when backpacking through Europe they would be plastered in Old Glory.

Just a thought.

I've gone backpacking through Europe twice. I did not pretend to be anything other than an American, but I had no stickers on my backpacks. I met plenty of people in Hostels who said "I should pretend to be something other than an American" but I never saw them actually do so. Since none of them could speak any other language or convincingly impersonate a foreign English accent they didn't really have any choice.
post #6748 of 15125
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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post

I've gone backpacking through Europe twice. I did not pretend to be anything other than an American, but I had no stickers on my backpacks. I met plenty of people in Hostels who said "I should pretend to be something other than an American" but I never saw them actually do so. Since none of them could speak any other language or convincingly impersonate a foreign English accent they didn't really have any choice.

Maybe this myth is just something created and perpetuated by Canadians?

Hmm, maybe not. It seems Canada has the best reputation in the world: http://www.reputationinstitute.com/thought-leadership/country-reptrak
post #6749 of 15125
For many years during the early and mid 2000s, many of the people I interacted with thought I was Canadian. Even after I told them multiple times that I was not, they would casually refer to my being Canadian. I did have a Canadian fiancee once, so maybe I picked up some Canadian ways, but still.

Also, I do use "keen" way more than the average American does. I picked that up from my fiancee. On the other hand, I do not think the Barenaked Ladies are the Led Zeppelin of our era.
post #6750 of 15125
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

Maybe this myth is just something created and perpetuated by Canadians?

Hmm, maybe not. It seems Canada has the best reputation in the world: http://www.reputationinstitute.com/thought-leadership/country-reptrak

For a short time there Obama had the best reputation in the world as a world leader. Look how that's turned out.
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